I think the users who get help (me included) needs to be better at updating relevant samples / docs. It's easy to help with.
On 17 January 2014 10:21, James Green <[email protected]> wrote: > Mailing lists are great for discussing matters but I've always found them > terrible at documenting things. If the questions on here were put on a web > site and answered there I'm sure more people would get the knowledge. > > It is also important to distinguish between documenting JEE and documenting > TomEE. JEE has a really big learning curve and an equally large > architecture. For TomEE should be documented where it exceeds or fails to > meet the standards. There is no current documentation for instance covering > why the plus edition is not certified so we have no idea whether we are > missing something or doing something that will eventually need correcting > when using a future (compliant) server release. > > Frankly I'd be pretty annoyed at having worked so long on a big release and > a month or so on the home page is _still_ advertising an old release as > latest! Where is the 1.6 release announcement? > > > > On 16 January 2014 21:36, Leonardo K. Shikida <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am using tomee+ for almost an year. > > > > Started from 1.5.2 and now I am a happy user of 1.6.0 (so much faster) > > > > My opinion is that > > > > - you guys should give Romain lots of beers, because he's 90% of this > > community. he saves the day. He's for tomee what balusC is for JSF. Most > > communities are like this, but it would be nice if at least 2 people were > > answering the questions. > > - more books please. the only one I have is 60% copy and paste of the > site > > and provides little help. I'd love an o'reilly tomee well-written book > > covering tomee+ (not only vanilla tomee) > > - more documentation. more step-by-step tutorials for stupid dummies like > > me, in the old eclipse tutorials style. Don't assume the reader knows > what > > you know. Dummies like me need documentation, not JEE gurus. > > - wire this community somehow to stackoverflow > > - make the forum easy to search and easy to read threads. Take best > answers > > and push into some wiki or add to the documentation > > - my dream would be a big tomee+ tutorial embracing all aspects of a > > full-featured solution, showing how to make jms and quartz persistent, > how > > to cluster, how to make it work with https, etc etc etc, like "the JEE > > tutorial using tomee instead of geronimo" (yes, I know Tomee is web > > profile, not full profile) > > - very very detailed documentation about tomee+ configuration. There are > > almost 10 configuration files involved. I know tomee+ relies n several > > other projects, BUT, I think the idea here is to pack them all into a > > single bundle and say "here's the integrated thing" > > > > that's what I think, I hope it helps. > > > > and congratulations for the good job. > > > > best regards > > > > Leo > > > > > > [] > > > > Leo > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Long, Doug > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > We'd like to hear about anything you'd like to tell us. If you're > short > > > on ideas, here are some: > > > > > > - Ways we can speed up or improve your ability to evaluate > TomEE > > > > > > o Make the stable release the version that is linked at > > > http://openejb.apache.org/index.html as the download link, or at > minimum > > > link to a page that has the versions labeled as stable and development. > > > > > > o Create a "Getting started" document (per branch if the instructions > > > are different) > > > > > > § Prerequisites > > > > > > · Versions of Tomcat, Java, and TomEE war > > > > > > · File permissions > > > > > > · Tomcat-users.xml roles > > > > > > § Installation and configuration: TomEE build > > > > > > § Installation and configuration: Tomcat stable + drop-in war > > > > > > o Create "TomEE GUI" documentation (per branch if the instructions > are > > > different) > > > > > > § Screenshots > > > > > > > > > > > > - Anything you found difficult or inconvenient about using > TomEE > > > > > > o Did not realize the default download is the development branch > > > > > > o Required roles between snapshots utilize different standards... > > > admin-gui/script vs manager-gui/script > > > > > > o TomEE war + Tomcat configuration instructions confusing : > > > http://tomee.apache.org/installation-drop-in-war.html > > > > > > § Why does the example state "Please note that the instructions below > do > > > not currently work with the 1.5.0 binaries due to a bug," but then > > > continues to use the 1.5.0 file names (tomee-webapp-1.5.0.war) in the > > > example? > > > > > > § Then on http://tomee.apache.org/manual-installation.html , which is > > > supposed to be referencing the 1.5.0 installation, it references the > > > openejb.war instead of tomee-webapp-1.5.0.war (which doesn't appear to > > > actually exist if you use the download link at > > > http://tomee.apache.org/download/tomee-1.5.0.html . So if it should be > > > referencing openejb-standalone-4.5.0.tar.gz, then it should be made > clear > > > on both pages to use this as the Tomcat + TomEE war installation method > > for > > > STABLE release, and not even have a reference to 1.5.0. Or is > > > openejb-standalone-4.6.0.tar.gz considered the stable release for > Tomcat > > + > > > TomEE? > > > > > > o http://tomee.apache.org/manual-installation.html has an "automatic > > > installation" hyperlink that points back to homepage. If automatic > > > installation simply refers to downloading the TomEE build, extracting > and > > > starting, then it should state so > > > > > > I still have no idea what instructions to use for a STABLE instance > > > utilizing a drop in war. What is the correct stable war file? Which > > > instructions should I use for this war file? > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help is greatly appreciated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep in mind that out of every 100 people that try something out, maybe > > > one will actually post about it. Feel incredibly encouraged to let us > > know > > > about your experiences with TomEE even if you think we've heard it a > > > hundred times. Odds are we have not heard it and, if we have, the most > > > requested things are done first. So definitely let us know! > > > > > > Apache TomEE is free, but you can pay us with feedback :) > > > > > > Best regards, > > > The Apache TomEE community > > > > > > _________________________________________________ > > > > > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > > > privileged, proprietary > > > or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, > > please > > > notify the sender > > > immediately and delete the original. 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