@Romain

Thanks, makes me understand it more.

You scare me little when you say "normally". In what  cases does it not?
Regards
Lars-Fredrik
On 27 Aug 2014 08:30, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <[email protected]> wrote:

> normally yes
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>
>
> 2014-08-27 8:00 GMT+02:00 Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <[email protected]>:
> > Good to know...
> >
> > So in the case no CDI-proxy is created the EJB-proxy will also run the
> > CDI-interceptors?
> >
> > I read that any EJB-interceptors will run after any tx has started (the
> EJB
> > or EJB-method is annotated with @TransactionAttribute).
> >
> > In the case of an CDI-proxy I assume that any CDI-interceptors will run
> > before the tx is started, is that the case?
> >
> > In the case of the CDI-interceptors being run by the EJB-proxy will they
> > then also run beefore the tx is started?
> >
> > Hope you can clarify the above, would help me alot.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Lars-Fredrik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It works but it is handled by the ejb itself, not cdi
> >> Le 26 août 2014 21:53, "Lars-Fredrik Smedberg" <[email protected]> a
> >> écrit :
> >>
> >> > @Romain
> >> >
> >> > I though that I could @Inject an EJB and apply CDI-interceptors to the
> >> EJB
> >> > or methods on it.
> >> >
> >> > Reading your answer it seems like I only can do that if the injceted
> EJB
> >> is
> >> > a scoped stateful EJB because in other cases no CDI-proxy is
> created....
> >> >
> >> > Did I get that right or did I misunderstand you?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Lars-Fredrik
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >> > [email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > no only for scoped stateful. for singleton/stateless you get the ejb
> >> > > proxy directly
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> > > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >> > > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >> > > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >> > > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2014-08-26 21:10 GMT+02:00 Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <
> [email protected]>:
> >> > > > Sorry for that, ofcourse I meant @Stateful, that was what we
> >> discussed
> >> > in
> >> > > > the previous posts :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thinking of the CDI proxy in front of the EJB proxy makes it
> easier
> >> to
> >> > > > understand what is going on under the hood.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > A follow up question:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - Will a CDI proxy always be created in front of the EJB proxy if
> the
> >> > EJB
> >> > > > is injected using @Inject? Or is that also the case when using
> @EJB?
> >> I
> >> > > > guess even for dependent scoped CDI beans a proxy is used to be
> able
> >> to
> >> > > > trigger interceptors etc.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards
> >> > > > LF
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >> > > [email protected]>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> replace @Stateless by @Stateful and it is that
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> cdi scope is just a proxy in front of ejb proxy
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> > > >> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >> > > >> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >> > > >> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >> > > >> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> 2014-08-26 17:54 GMT+02:00 Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <
> >> [email protected]
> >> > >:
> >> > > >> > Thanks for the answer.
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > So to summarize the scoping rules from CDI apply and the
> >> concurrency
> >> > > >> > management from EJB apply when combining @Stateless and any of
> the
> >> > > >> > @NormalScopes...
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > Regards
> >> > > >> > Lars-Fredrik
> >> > > >> > On 26 Aug 2014 16:50, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> [email protected]
> >> >
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> >> Hi
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> 2014-08-26 16:45 GMT+02:00 Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <
> >> > [email protected]
> >> > > >:
> >> > > >> >> > Hi
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > I have a few questions on EJB, CDI and Concurrency when I
> read
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > http://tomee.apache.org/examples-trunk/access-timeout/README.html,
> >> > > I
> >> > > >> >> read
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > - Concurrent access to a @Stateful bean is serialized by the
> >> > > >> container.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > I also understand that I can annotate the EJBs with any of
> the
> >> > > >> CDI-scopes
> >> > > >> >> > (in my case I'm interested in @RequestScoped, @SessionScoped
> >> and
> >> > > >> >> > @ApplicationScoped).
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Questions:
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > 1. If I annotate the @Stateful bean with @RequestScoped I
> >> assume
> >> > > that
> >> > > >> I
> >> > > >> >> get
> >> > > >> >> > a separate bean instance for each call? Correct?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> yes
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> > 2. If I annotate the @Stateful bean with @SessionScoped I
> >> assume
> >> > > that
> >> > > >> I
> >> > > >> >> per
> >> > > >> >> > sesion get a separate bean instance that allows concurrent
> >> calls
> >> > > >> withing
> >> > > >> >> > that particular session without wait? Correct?
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> you get one instance by session and calls are serialized if
> >> needed
> >> > to
> >> > > >> >> ensure thread safety
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> > 3. If I annotate the @Stateful bean with @ApplicationScoped
> I
> >> > > assume
> >> > > >> >> that I
> >> > > >> >> > per application get one bean instance that allows concurrent
> >> > calls
> >> > > >> >> without
> >> > > >> >> > wait? Correct?
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> same as before, thread safety is ensured
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> > The reason I ask is that as far as I understand CDI does not
> >> have
> >> > > any
> >> > > >> >> > concurrency management but the EJB has. What will be the
> case
> >> > when
> >> > > >> doing
> >> > > >> >> as
> >> > > >> >> > above?
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Please help me get some in-depth understanding on this.
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> for @AppScoped => look @javax.ejb.Singleton and @Lock which is
> >> > surely
> >> > > >> >> better
> >> > > >> >>
> >> > > >> >> > Thanks
> >> > > >> >> > Lars-Fredrik Smedberg
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > --
> >> > > >> >> > Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards
> >> > > >> >> >
> >> > > >> >> > Lars-Fredrik Smedberg
> >> > > >> >> >
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> >> > > >> Smedberg
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> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Med vänlig hälsning / Best regards
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Lars-Fredrik Smedberg
> >> > > >
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> >> >
> >> > Lars-Fredrik Smedberg
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> >
> > Lars-Fredrik Smedberg
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