Thanks for the answer... yes I understood from some earlier mails between
you, Mark S and me that there were no inheritence.... could be nice to have
in some cases but I assume it causes some headaches when the new thread
might live longer than the ongoing request.

Regards
LF

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
wrote:

> 2014-11-28 9:26 GMT+01:00 Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <[email protected]>:
> > Oh, so by request scoped wrapped you mean simply pull out whatever data I
> > need from the scoped beans before I call the async method?
> >
>
> sure "message passing" pettern
>
> > About async ejb methods and CDI I read JSR299 (which we depend on) and in
> > 6.7.1 and 6.7.3 I think it says request and application context are valid
> > for any asyn ejb method call... and in JSR236 in section 2.3.2.1 that
> > application context is valid for tasks but I might have enterpreted it
> > wrong?
> >
>
> it is correct but no inheritance between thread so @Async doesn't use
> the *same* request scoped instance
>
> > You say that you will have the same implementation for async and java ee
> > concurrency... does this mean that for java ee concurrency you will also
> > allow request context (even though its outside spec to use)?
> >
>
> it is the case for 2.0-SNAPSHOT. It means it will work as today
>
> > Regards
> > LF
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Le 28 nov. 2014 08:49, "Lars-Fredrik Smedberg" <[email protected]> a
> >> écrit
> >> :
> >> >
> >> > We do it by a dependent scope bean impl callable at the moment... and
> >> > resolve all req scope variables needed before calling the async
> >> method....
> >> >
> >> > But concurrency spec allows only applicationsscope but async also
> >> > requestscope right?
> >>
> >> Not explicitely - tend to be the opposite btw - and on tomee 2 both use
> the
> >> same impl for consistency.
> >>
> >> > So my idea was that the factory that produces the req
> >> > scoped beans could get the data from somewhere else and not only from
> the
> >> > httpservletreq... but i see your point to stay away from req scopes
> if we
> >> > would like to move to java ee concurrency later....
> >> >
> >> > Could you elaborate on request scoped wrapper?
> >> >
> >>
> >> You use a req bean the do reqbean.getData() and pass it to the async
> task.
> >>
> >> > I also did some tests with custom scopes a while ago (mostly to learn)
> >> but
> >> > again such a solution would not be very transparent....
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> > LF
> >> > On Nov 28, 2014 7:45 AM, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hehe you think like me when I started to impl concurrency utilities
> for
> >> > > ee...but spec forbids more or less it and it would break a lot. If
> >> that's
> >> > > just values idea is to use a dependent bean passed as message to the
> >> async
> >> > > method. To keep request scope you need a request scoped wrapper.
> >> > >  Le 28 nov. 2014 02:18, "Lars-Fredrik Smedberg" <[email protected]>
> a
> >> > > écrit :
> >> > >
> >> > > > Romain, could you please explain what the usage of ThreadContext
> is?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Today we have some @RequestScoped beans that are created from the
> >> > > > HttpServletRequest (amongst other things). When executing the
> >> > > @Asynchronous
> >> > > > EJB method I would like to be able to inject the same beans again
> >> > > > (containing the same values). If I understood it correctly the
> >> request
> >> > > > scope is available but when injecting and calling the
> @RequestScoped
> >> > > beans
> >> > > > from the @Asynchronous method they will be created again since we
> are
> >> > > > executing on a new thread (and in this case I have no
> >> HttpServletRequest
> >> > > to
> >> > > > use when creating them)...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > For our use cases it is fine if the @RequestScoped beans lives a
> >> little
> >> > > bit
> >> > > > longer than the original request.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is there any easy/good way to pass information so I can recreate
> the
> >> > > beans
> >> > > > on the new thread?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards
> >> > > > LF
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Lars-Fredrik Smedberg <
> >> > > > [email protected]>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks Romain... will take a look at those...
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Regards
> >> > > > > LF
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> tomee/tomee/trunk/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/core/ivm/EjbHomeProxyHandler.java
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> tomee/tomee/trunk/container/openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/core/ivm/EjbObjectProxyHandler.java
> >> > > > >> Le 28 nov. 2014 00:18, "Lars-Fredrik Smedberg" <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> a
> >> > > > >> écrit
> >> > > > >> :
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > Thanks... What source code can I look at?
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > Regards
> >> > > > >> > LF
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >> > > > >> > [email protected]>
> >> > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > It basically just does executorService.execute(new
> >> > > > >> OpenEjbMethod(method,
> >> > > > >> > > securitycontext))
> >> > > > >> > > Le 27 nov. 2014 22:12, "Lars-Fredrik Smedberg" <
> >> > > [email protected]>
> >> > > > a
> >> > > > >> > > écrit
> >> > > > >> > > :
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > Hi!
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > I would like to understand how TomEE/OpenEJB implements
> >> > > > >> @Asynchronous
> >> > > > >> > EJB
> >> > > > >> > > > Methods....
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > Can anyone perhaps give me a short descriptions and the
> >> point to
> >> > > > >> what
> >> > > > >> > > > source code classes to look at?
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > Regards
> >> > > > >> > > > LF
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > --
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