Hello Romain,

I agree with you about report.
What does "report" mean ? Is it a log ? Is it an error/exception returned back 
to the client ?

About "Do you want to report it to the spec?":  my answer is yes.
I would be pleased this point to be clarified by the spec as it is ambiguous 
according to me !

My point would be during deserialization:
      - to have all the fields, not annotated by JsonbTransient, mandatory for 
the Entity expected and so if one of them is missing, sending back an error to 
the
         caller (4xx better than 500).
      - to follow the Must-Ignore policy (eg if there are additional  data in 
the Entity: others than the ones expected are there)

Make sense ?

Just my 2 cents ...

Best Regards.

-----Original Message-----
From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com]
Sent: lundi 3 avril 2017 11:09
To: users@tomee.apache.org
Subject: Re: Not the same behaviour between Johnzon and Jackson

2017-04-03 11:06 GMT+02:00 COURTAULT Francois <
francois.courta...@gemalto.com>:

> Hello Romain,
>
> I believe I have understood that "JSON serialization is NOT in EE 7".
> This is why I said: " the behavior of the readFrom is not really described"
> in JAX-RS 2.0.
>
> BTW, I have read some parts of the current JSON-B specification and,
> according to me, this is not quite clear (eg the spec is ambiguous)
> Indeed:
>      - in § 3.2, it is stated " Implementations SHOULD also report an
> error during a deserialization operation, if it is not possible to
> represent a JSON document value with the expected Java type."
>      - in § 3.7.1, it is stated "If a JSON document contains a
> name/value pair not corresponding to field or setter method, then this
> name/value pair MUST be ignored. "
>
> So, according to what it is written above, what is the right behavior ?
>      - report an error because it is not possible to "represent a JSON
> document value with the expected Java type" during deserialization ?
>      - to ignore a JSON name/value pair if this one doesn't
> correspond to a field or setter method ?
>
>
ignore, reporting can be a log statement or anything (but being undefined it 
wouldnt be tested so right this first quote is useless for now). Do you want to 
report it to the spec? Guess it will just clarify it before the final release 
(likely remove it since a log by error would mean always logging an error which 
would pollute logs or it would mean logging first error which is not that 
useful IMO)


> Best Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: lundi 3 avril 2017 09:49
> To: users@tomee.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Not the same behaviour between Johnzon and Jackson
>
> Hmm, not sure I 100% understand so if my next comment is inaccurate
> please shout (also not capitals are not cause i'm angry or anything,
> just to highlight the word ;)):
>
> JAX-RS is NOT about JSON or XML but about a way to serialize a payload
> to some format. JAX-RS supports JSON, XML, binary protocols etc... so
> it doesn't own anything but a word saying "we integrate with this other spec".
> An example on another layer is: it doesn't define how bean validation
> works but only that it works on some JAX-RS components/parts.
>
> The JSON serialization is NOT in EE 7 and therefore fully vendor
> specific for now.
>
> JSON-B default is to ignore unknown fields (as in I-JSON spec IIRC)
> whereas Jackson chose to fail on them. Both defaults can make sense so
> I guess you just have to know which one you use and adapt.
>
> Agree that JSON-B/Johnzon one makes more sense when you use a js front
> which can leak some attributes ;).
>
>
>
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> 2017-04-03 9:45 GMT+02:00 COURTAULT Francois <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.
> com
> >:
>
> > Hello Romain,
> >
> >  I have read the specification and I haven't seen what you have
> mentioned.
> > In §4.2.1: Message Body Reader, point 5, it is written:
> > "If step 4 locates a suitable MessageBodyReader then use its
> > readFrom method to map the entity body to the desired Java type."
> >
> > But the behavior of the readFrom is not really described.
> > I hope it will be clarified in JAX-RS 2.1 specification with JSON-B ....
> >
> > Best Regards.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibu...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: lundi 3 avril 2017 09:02
> > To: users@tomee.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Not the same behaviour between Johnzon and Jackson
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > 2017-04-03 9:00 GMT+02:00 COURTAULT Francois <Francois.Courtault@gemalto.
> > com
> > >:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have written a simple JAX-RS endpoint (POST) which takes an
> > > object which contain one String field annotated @NotNull.
> > > The POST method returns the object received.
> > >
> > > Then I invoke this endpoint:
> > >
> > > -          Johnzon:
> > >
> > > o   If I send a payload with one field which doesn't match the field
> name
> > > of the Class defined at server side: I get a 200 OK and a returned
> > > payload empty
> > >
> > > o   If I send a payload with 2 fields whether the second one is
> valuated
> > > or not: I get a 200 OK and a returned payload empty
> > >
> > > -          Jackson:
> > >
> > > o   If I send a payload with one field which doesn't match the field
> name
> > > of the Class defined at server side: I get a 500 KO with
> > > UnrecognizedPropertyException
> > >
> > > o   If I send a payload with 2 fields whether the second one is
> valuated
> > > or not: I get a 500 OK with UnrecognizedPropertyException
> > >
> > > What is the right behavior (Johnzon or Jackson) ? Is this behavior
> > > defined in the JAX-RS 2.0 specification ?
> > >
> > >
> > Right = none
> > Defined in JAXRS = none (this is jsonp which is lower level, jsonb
> > will be like johnzon but in EE 8 only)
> >
> > Note that you can customize jackson to ignore unknown fields and
> > behave as johnzon, just different defaults
> >
> >
> > > Best Regards.
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