then it should happen also with hsqldb and you can probably share a small
sample on github. Main challenge is to write a small failling test. Will
try to have a look in the week.

PS: thought to a case it can happen and is not abnormal: a timeout. If you
timeout the EJB method is not cancelled so you get the response before the
commit but this is "normal".


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2017-05-01 21:18 GMT+02:00 Paul Carter-Brown <
paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com>:

> Hi Romain,
>
> I modifed that class as follows:
>
> public void commit() throws ApplicationException, SystemException {
>         // only commit if we started the transaction
>         log.warn("In commit - sleeping for 3000ms");
>         try {
>             Thread.sleep(3000);
>         } catch (Exception e) {
>             log.warn("Error in sleep");
>         }
>         log.warn("Woke up from sleep");
>         if (clientTx == null) {
>             log.warn("In commit - clientTx is null");
>             completeTransaction(currentTx);
>         } else {
>             log.warn("In commit - clientTx is not null");
>             fireNonTransactionalCompletion();
>         }
>     }
>
> Here is the timing of the wireshark request/response:
> 462 20:35:11.046374    10.0.1.57 -> 10.0.1.57    HTTP/XML 2124 POST
> /IM/IdentityManager HTTP/1.1
> 464 20:35:11.082010    10.0.1.57 -> 10.0.1.57    HTTP/XML 384 HTTP/1.1 200
>
> My JMeter client reported a response time of 52ms on the SOAP call.
>
> And the TomEE logs:
>
> 2017/05/01 20:35:11.046 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.add]
> |Adding interceptor
> org.apache.cxf.transport.https.CertConstraintsInterceptor@3a37dedb to
> phase
> pre-stream
> 2017/05/01 20:35:11.047 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> outputChainToLog]
> |Chain org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain@16d0091a was created.
> Current flow:
>   receive [PolicyInInterceptor, SaajInFaultInterceptor,
> AttachmentInInterceptor]
>   pre-stream [CertConstraintsInterceptor]
>   post-stream [StaxInInterceptor]
>   read [SAAJPreInInterceptor, WSDLGetInterceptor, ReadHeadersInterceptor,
> SoapActionInInterceptor, StartBodyInterceptor]
>   pre-protocol [SAAJInInterceptor]
>   post-protocol [CheckFaultInterceptor, JAXBAttachmentSchemaValidation
> Hack]
>   unmarshal [DocLiteralInInterceptor, SoapHeaderInterceptor]
>   pre-logical [OneWayProcessorInterceptor]
>   post-logical [WrapperClassInInterceptor]
>   pre-invoke [SwAInInterceptor, HolderInInterceptor]
>   invoke [ServiceInvokerInterceptor]
>   post-invoke [SaajInInterceptor, OutgoingChainInterceptor]
>
> ...... (further logs of incoming processing)
>
> 2017/05/01 20:35:11.081 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept]
> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.interceptor.SoapOutInterceptor$
> SoapOutEndingInterceptor@1f0dd756
> 2017/05/01 20:35:11.081 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept]
> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.saaj.SAAJOutInterceptor$
> SAAJOutEndingInterceptor@720f2664
> 2017/05/01 20:35:11.081 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept]
> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.StaxOutEndingInterceptor@3b5f0e7e
> 2017/05/01 20:35:11.081 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept]
> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.MessageSenderInterceptor$
> MessageSenderEndingInterceptor@6ae1d81a
>
> *2017/05/01 20:35:11.082 WARNING
> [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.openejb.core.
> transaction.TxRequired.commit]
> |In commit - sleeping for 3000ms*
> *2017/05/01 20:35:14.082 WARNING
> [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.openejb.core.
> transaction.TxRequired.commit]
> |Woke up from sleep*
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.082 WARNING
> [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.openejb.core.
> transaction.TxRequired.commit]
> |In commit - clientTx is null
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.083 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.transactionBegun]
> |TransactionBegun called on [com.mysql.jdbc.JDBC4Connection@7d0cc890]
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.083 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.commit]
> |Commit called on [com.mysql.jdbc.JDBC4Connection@7d0cc890]
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.083 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.commit]
> |Stack:
> java.lang.Exception
>         at
> com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.SmileConnectionLifecycleInterc
> eptor.commit(SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.java:34)
>         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl$2.forEach(ConnectionImpl.java:
> 1593)
>         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl$2.forEach(ConnectionImpl.java:
> 1592)
>         at com.mysql.jdbc.IterateBlock.doForAll(IterateBlock.java:61)
>         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl.commit(ConnectionImpl.java:1599)
>         at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor145.invoke(Unknown Source)
>         at
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>         at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
>         at
> org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.ProxyConnection.invoke(
> ProxyConnection.java:126)
>         at
> org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.JdbcInterceptor.invoke(
> JdbcInterceptor.java:108)
>         at
> org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.DisposableConnectionFacade.invoke(
> DisposableConnectionFacade.java:81)
>         at com.sun.proxy.$Proxy58.commit(Unknown Source)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.resource.jdbc.managed.local.LocalXAResource.commit(
> LocalXAResource.java:131)
>         at
> org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.TransactionImpl.commitResource(
> TransactionImpl.java:627)
>         at
> org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.TransactionImpl.commit(
> TransactionImpl.java:305)
>         at
> org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.TransactionManagerImpl.commit(
> TransactionManagerImpl.java:252)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.JtaTransactionPolicy.
> completeTransaction(JtaTransactionPolicy.java:331)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.TxRequired.commit(TxRequired.java:91)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.EjbTransactionUtil.afterInvoke(
> EjbTransactionUtil.java:77)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.core.stateless.StatelessContainer._
> invoke(StatelessContainer.java:271)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.core.stateless.StatelessContainer.
> invoke(StatelessContainer.java:212)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.ejb.EjbMethodInvoker.
> preEjbInvoke(EjbMethodInvoker.java:125)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.ejb.EjbMethodInvoker.invoke(
> EjbMethodInvoker.java:82)
>         at
> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.ServiceInvokerInterceptor$1.
> run(ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:59)
>         at
> java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:511)
>         at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:266)
>         at
> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.ServiceInvokerInterceptor$2.
> run(ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:126)
>         at
> org.apache.cxf.workqueue.SynchronousExecutor.execute(
> SynchronousExecutor.java:37)
>         at
> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.ServiceInvokerInterceptor.handleMessage(
> ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:131)
>         at
> org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.doIntercept(
> PhaseInterceptorChain.java:308)
>         at
> org.apache.cxf.transport.ChainInitiationObserver.onMessage(
> ChainInitiationObserver.java:121)
>         at
> org.apache.cxf.transport.http.AbstractHTTPDestination.invoke(
> AbstractHTTPDestination.java:262)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.CxfWsContainer.onMessage(
> CxfWsContainer.java:85)
>         at
> org.apache.openejb.server.webservices.WsServlet.service(WsServlet.java:98)
>         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(
> ApplicationFilterChain.java:230)
>         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(
> ApplicationFilterChain.java:165)
>         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(
> StandardWrapperValve.java:198)
>         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(
> StandardContextValve.java:96)
>         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(
> StandardHostValve.java:140)
>         at
> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(
> ErrorReportValve.java:79)
>         at
> org.apache.tomee.catalina.OpenEJBSecurityListener$RequestCapturer.invoke(
> OpenEJBSecurityListener.java:97)
>         at
> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(
> StandardEngineValve.java:87)
>         at
> org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(
> CoyoteAdapter.java:349)
>         at
> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.service(Http11Processor.java:783)
>         at
> org.apache.coyote.AbstractProcessorLight.process(
> AbstractProcessorLight.java:66)
>         at
> org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol$ConnectionHandler.process(
> AbstractProtocol.java:798)
>         at
> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.NioEndpoint$SocketProcessor.
> doRun(NioEndpoint.java:1434)
>         at
> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.SocketProcessorBase.run(
> SocketProcessorBase.java:49)
>         at
> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(
> ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
>         at
> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(
> ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
>         at
> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.TaskThread$WrappingRunnable.run(
> TaskThread.java:61)
>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
>
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.084 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.transactionCompleted]
> |TransactionCompleted called on [com.mysql.jdbc.JDBC4Connection@7d0cc890]
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.084 WARNING
> [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.TxRequired.
> getCurrentTransaction]
> |In getCurrentTransaction
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.084 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept]
> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.client.SaajInInterceptor@3374eec1
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.085 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept]
> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.OutgoingChainInterceptor@62316059
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.085 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.add]
> |Adding interceptor
> org.apache.cxf.transport.https.CertConstraintsInterceptor@3a37dedb to
> phase
> pre-stream
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.085 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> outputChainToLog]
> |Chain org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain@301c8187 was created.
> Current flow:
>   receive [PolicyInInterceptor, SaajInFaultInterceptor,
> AttachmentInInterceptor]
>   pre-stream [CertConstraintsInterceptor]
>   post-stream [StaxInInterceptor]
>   read [SAAJPreInInterceptor, WSDLGetInterceptor, ReadHeadersInterceptor,
> SoapActionInInterceptor, StartBodyInterceptor]
>   pre-protocol [SAAJInInterceptor]
>   post-protocol [CheckFaultInterceptor, JAXBAttachmentSchemaValidation
> Hack]
>   unmarshal [DocLiteralInInterceptor, SoapHeaderInterceptor]
>   pre-logical [OneWayProcessorInterceptor]
>   post-logical [WrapperClassInInterceptor]
>   pre-invoke [SwAInInterceptor, HolderInInterceptor]
>   invoke [ServiceInvokerInterceptor]
>   post-invoke [SaajInInterceptor, OutgoingChainInterceptor]
>
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.085 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept]
> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> org.apache.cxf.ws.policy.PolicyInInterceptor@6c760041
> 2017/05/01 20:35:14.085 FINE
>  [TomEE-Exec-12][206][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept]
> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.client.SaajInFaultInterceptor@4d50ee8
>
>
> So this 100% confirms that the transaction is committed after the response
> has been sent. I think this bug has major implications on ACID compliance.
> I also checked on 7.0.2 and found the same behavior.
>
> Paul
>
> On 29 April 2017 at 09:57, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ps:
> > https://github.com/apache/tomee/blob/master/container/
> > openejb-core/src/main/java/org/apache/openejb/core/
> > transaction/TxRequired.java
> >
> > Le 29 avr. 2017 09:55, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibu...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > Should be before. You can put breakpoint/logs in TxPolicy and your ejb
> > >
> > > Le 29 avr. 2017 00:44, "Paul Carter-Brown"
> <paul.carter-brown@smilecoms.
> > > com> a écrit :
> > >
> > >> Hi Romain,
> > >>
> > >> A quick update. I put cxf logging on and for a typical message
> exchange
> > >> for
> > >> a JAX-WS service backed by an EJB.At the same time I ran a wireshark
> on
> > >> the
> > >> server to see the network traffic. This is for a single call under no
> > >> concurrency so you can easily verify yourself with any SOAP service in
> > >> TomEE:
> > >>
> > >> 1438 00:09:05.510294    10.0.1.57 -> 10.0.1.57    HTTP/XML 1223 POST
> > >> /IM/IdentityManager HTTP/1.1
> > >> 1439 00:09:05.510436    10.0.1.57 -> 10.0.1.57    TCP 68 mcreport >
> > 40929
> > >> [ACK] Seq=1721 Ack=7983 Win=323456 Len=0 TSval=70303912 TSecr=70303912
> > >> 1440 00:09:05.527410    10.0.1.57 -> 10.0.1.57    HTTP/XML 1852
> HTTP/1.1
> > >> 200
> > >> 1441 00:09:05.527453    10.0.1.57 -> 10.0.1.57    TCP 68 40929 >
> > mcreport
> > >> [ACK] Seq=7983 Ack=3505 Win=178944 Len=0 TSval=70303916 TSecr=70303916
> > >>
> > >> So at 00:09:05.510 the server got the request. Here are the server
> logs
> > >> verifying this:
> > >>
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.510 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.add]
> > >> |Adding interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.transport.https.CertConstraintsInterceptor@64623f81 to
> > >> phase
> > >> pre-stream
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.510 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.outputChainToLog]
> > >> |Chain org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain@713d71d3 was
> created.
> > >> Current flow:
> > >>   receive [PolicyInInterceptor, SaajInFaultInterceptor,
> > >> AttachmentInInterceptor]
> > >>   pre-stream [CertConstraintsInterceptor]
> > >>   post-stream [StaxInInterceptor]
> > >>   read [SAAJPreInInterceptor, WSDLGetInterceptor,
> > ReadHeadersInterceptor,
> > >> SoapActionInInterceptor, StartBodyInterceptor]
> > >>   pre-protocol [SAAJInInterceptor]
> > >>   post-protocol [CheckFaultInterceptor, JAXBAttachmentSchemaValidation
> > >> Hack]
> > >>   unmarshal [DocLiteralInInterceptor, SoapHeaderInterceptor]
> > >>   pre-logical [OneWayProcessorInterceptor]
> > >>   post-logical [WrapperClassInInterceptor]
> > >>   pre-invoke [SwAInInterceptor, HolderInInterceptor]
> > >>   invoke [ServiceInvokerInterceptor]
> > >>   post-invoke [SaajInInterceptor, OutgoingChainInterceptor]
> > >>
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.510 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.ws.policy.PolicyInInterceptor@1e78ace6
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.510 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.client.SaajInFaultInterceptor@1338d078
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.510 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.AttachmentInInterceptor@5dea89fc
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.510 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.transport.https.CertConstraintsInterceptor@64623f81
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.510 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.StaxInInterceptor@647520af
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.511 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.add]
> > >> |Adding interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.StaxInEndingInterceptor@39dd4830 to phase
> > >> pre-invoke
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.511 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.outputChainToLog]
> > >> |Chain org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain@713d71d3 was
> > modified.
> > >> Current flow:
> > >>   receive [PolicyInInterceptor, SaajInFaultInterceptor,
> > >> AttachmentInInterceptor]
> > >>   pre-stream [CertConstraintsInterceptor]
> > >>   post-stream [StaxInInterceptor]
> > >>   read [SAAJPreInInterceptor, WSDLGetInterceptor,
> > ReadHeadersInterceptor,
> > >> SoapActionInInterceptor, StartBodyInterceptor]
> > >>   pre-protocol [SAAJInInterceptor]
> > >>   post-protocol [CheckFaultInterceptor, JAXBAttachmentSchemaValidation
> > >> Hack]
> > >>   unmarshal [DocLiteralInInterceptor, SoapHeaderInterceptor]
> > >>   pre-logical [OneWayProcessorInterceptor]
> > >>   post-logical [WrapperClassInInterceptor]
> > >>   pre-invoke [StaxInEndingInterceptor, SwAInInterceptor,
> > >> HolderInInterceptor]
> > >>   invoke [ServiceInvokerInterceptor]
> > >>   post-invoke [SaajInInterceptor, OutgoingChainInterceptor]
> > >>
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.511 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.saaj.SAAJInInterceptor$SAAJPreIn
> > >> Interceptor@6c33f463
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.511 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.frontend.WSDLGetInterceptor@11c0446f
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.511 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.interceptor.
> ReadHeadersInterceptor@be15cc5
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.511 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.interceptor.SoapActionInInterceptor@
> > 79836009
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.511 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.interceptor.StartBodyInterceptor@70afa3ac
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.511 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.saaj.SAAJInInterceptor@3d12954e
> > >> .....
> > >>
> > >> Now lets look at the server logs around the time the response goes
> back
> > >> and
> > >> also see where the commit was issued:
> > >>
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.523 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.jaxws.handler.logical.LogicalHandlerOutInterc
> > >> eptor@128bf90f
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.523 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.wsdl.interceptors.BareOutInterceptor@62b3ecb1
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.524 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.jaxws.handler.soap.SOAPHandlerInterceptor$1@900b115
> > >> *2017/04/29 00:09:05.527 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.interceptor.SoapOutInterceptor$S
> > >> oapOutEndingInterceptor@10aa05f4*
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.527 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.binding.soap.saaj.SAAJOutInterceptor$SAAJOutE
> > >> ndingInterceptor@66cac58b
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.527 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.StaxOutEndingInterceptor@3304ff7d
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.527 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.MessageSenderInterceptor$MessageS
> > >> enderEndingInterceptor@674adcf8
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.529 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.S
> > >> mileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.commit]
> > >> |Commit called on [com.mysql.jdbc.JDBC4Connection@314c8b4a]
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.529 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.S
> > >> mileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.commit]
> > >> |Stack:
> > >> java.lang.Exception
> > >>         at
> > >> com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.SmileConnectionLifecycl
> > >> eInterceptor.commit(SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.java:34)
> > >>         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl$
> 2.forEach(ConnectionImpl.java:
> > >> 1593)
> > >>         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl$
> 2.forEach(ConnectionImpl.java:
> > >> 1592)
> > >>         at com.mysql.jdbc.IterateBlock.doForAll(IterateBlock.java:61)
> > >>         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl.commit(ConnectionImpl.java:
> > 1599)
> > >>         at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor138.invoke(Unknown
> > Source)
> > >>         at
> > >> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMe
> > >> thodAccessorImpl.java:43)
> > >>         at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.ProxyConnection.invoke(ProxyConn
> > >> ection.java:126)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.JdbcInterceptor.invoke(JdbcInter
> > >> ceptor.java:108)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.DisposableConnectionFacade.invok
> > >> e(DisposableConnectionFacade.java:81)
> > >>         at com.sun.proxy.$Proxy58.commit(Unknown Source)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.resource.jdbc.managed.local.LocalXAResour
> > >> ce.commit(LocalXAResource.java:131)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.TransactionImpl.comm
> > >> itResource(TransactionImpl.java:627)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.TransactionImpl.
> > >> commit(TransactionImpl.java:305)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.TransactionManagerIm
> > >> pl.commit(TransactionManagerImpl.java:252)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.JtaTransactionPolicy.com
> > >> pleteTransaction(JtaTransactionPolicy.java:331)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.TxRequired.commit(
> > TxRequired.java:76)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.EjbTransactionUtil.after
> > >> Invoke(EjbTransactionUtil.java:77)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.core.stateless.StatelessContainer._invoke
> > >> (StatelessContainer.java:271)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.core.stateless.StatelessContainer.invoke(
> > >> StatelessContainer.java:212)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.ejb.EjbMethodInvoker.preEjbInv
> > >> oke(EjbMethodInvoker.java:125)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.ejb.EjbMethodInvoker.invoke(Ej
> > >> bMethodInvoker.java:82)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.cxf.service.invoker.AbstractInvoker.invoke(
> > >> AbstractInvoker.java:74)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.ServiceInvokerInterceptor$1.run(
> > >> ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:59)
> > >>         at
> > >> java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.
> call(Executors.java:511)
> > >>         at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:266)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.ServiceInvokerInterceptor$2.run(
> > >> ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:126)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.cxf.workqueue.SynchronousExecutor.execute(Synchro
> > >> nousExecutor.java:37)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.ServiceInvokerInterceptor.handleM
> > >> essage(ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:131)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.doIntercept(Phase
> > >> InterceptorChain.java:308)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.cxf.transport.ChainInitiationObserver.onMessage(C
> > >> hainInitiationObserver.java:121)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.cxf.transport.http.AbstractHTTPDestination.invoke
> > >> (AbstractHTTPDestination.java:262)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.CxfWsContainer.onMessage(CxfWs
> > >> Container.java:85)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.openejb.server.webservices.WsServlet.service(WsSe
> > >> rvlet.java:98)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFi
> > >> lter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:230)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(App
> > >> licationFilterChain.java:165)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(Standar
> > >> dWrapperValve.java:198)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(Standar
> > >> dContextValve.java:96)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHo
> > >> stValve.java:140)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorRepo
> > >> rtValve.java:79)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.tomee.catalina.OpenEJBSecurityListener$RequestCap
> > >> turer.invoke(OpenEJBSecurityListener.java:97)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(Standard
> > >> EngineValve.java:87)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAd
> > >> apter.java:349)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.service(Http11Proce
> > >> ssor.java:783)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.coyote.AbstractProcessorLight.process(AbstractPro
> > >> cessorLight.java:66)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol$ConnectionHandler.
> > >> process(AbstractProtocol.java:798)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.NioEndpoint$SocketProcessor.doRun
> > >> (NioEndpoint.java:1434)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.tomcat.util.net.SocketProcessorBase.run(SocketPro
> > >> cessorBase.java:49)
> > >>         at
> > >> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPool
> > >> Executor.java:1142)
> > >>         at
> > >> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoo
> > >> lExecutor.java:617)
> > >>         at
> > >> org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.TaskThread$WrappingRunnable.
> > >> run(TaskThread.java:61)
> > >>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
> > >>
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.529 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.client.SaajInInterceptor@41aa4e75
> > >> 2017/04/29 00:09:05.530 FINE
> > >>  [TomEE-Exec-30][224][org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorC
> > >> hain.doIntercept]
> > >> |Invoking handleMessage on interceptor
> > >> org.apache.cxf.interceptor.OutgoingChainInterceptor@564ef482
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From what I can gather from the source, the SOAP document is flushed
> on
> > >> the
> > >> socket in SoapOutEndingInterceptor which I have put in bold. This also
> > >> corresponds with the wireshark timing
> > >>
> > >> The class looks like this:
> > >>
> > >> public class SoapOutEndingInterceptor extends AbstractSoapInterceptor
> {
> > >>   269           public SoapOutEndingInterceptor() {
> > >>   270               super(SoapOutEndingInterceptor.class.getName(),
> > >> Phase.WRITE_ENDING);  271           }
> > >>   272
> > >>   273           public void handleMessage(SoapMessage message) throws
> > >> Fault {
> > >>   274               SoapVersion soapVersion = message.getVersion();
> > >>   275               try {
> > >>   276                   XMLStreamWriter xtw =
> > >> message.getContent(XMLStreamWriter.class);
> > >>   277                   if (xtw != null) {
> > >>   278                       xtw.writeEndElement();
> > >>   279                       // Write Envelope end element
> > >>   280                       xtw.writeEndElement();  281
> > >>        xtw.writeEndDocument();
> > >>   282
> > >>   283                       xtw.flush();
> > >>   284                   }
> > >>   285               } catch (XMLStreamException e) {
> > >>   286                   throw new SoapFault(new
> > >> org.apache.cxf.common.i18n.Message("XML_WRITE_EXC", BUNDLE), e,
> > >>   287                                       soapVersion.getSender());
> > >>   288               }
> > >>   289           }
> > >>   290       }
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The commit is only called via MessageSenderInterceptor but from the
> > stack
> > >> trace I can't quite work out how ServiceInvokerInterceptor is called
> > from
> > >> MessageSenderInterceptor so I can't explain the stack trace of the
> > commit
> > >> call unless it's some fancy context switching and use of completable
> > >> futures
> > >>
> > >> Any ideas what's going on?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> On 27 April 2017 at 10:39, Paul Carter-Brown <
> > >> paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > For sure. I will start by pulling openejb source and digging in for
> > >> > possible causes. A few log lines here and there and im sure i can
> find
> > >> it
> > >> >
> > >> > Paul
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent from my phone. Message may be brief and contain typos.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 27 Apr 2017 10:25 a.m., "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> > rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > ant / gradle are other options but something not IDE related please
> > (or
> > >> you
> > >> > take the risk noone will be able to run it ;))
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > >> > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > >> > <https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog
> > >> > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > >> https://github.com/rmannibuca
> > >> > u> |
> > >> > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | JavaEE Factory
> > >> > <https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com>
> > >> >
> > >> > 2017-04-27 9:48 GMT+02:00 Paul Carter-Brown
> > >> <paul.carter-brown@smilecoms.c
> > >> > om
> > >> > >:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Will see what I can do to reproduce for you. Maven and I do not
> get
> > >> one
> > >> > > well :-(
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On 27 April 2017 at 09:30, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Ok, at that point maybe try to reproduce it on a small sample on
> > >> > github -
> > >> > > > goal is to share with us your setup more or less but not
> > >> confidential
> > >> > > data.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > You can use:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > <dependency>
> > >> > > >   <groupId>com.wix</groupId>
> > >> > > >   <artifactId>wix-embedded-mysql</artifactId>
> > >> > > >   <version>2.1.4</version>
> > >> > > > </dependency>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > And in java:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > EmbeddedMysql.anEmbeddedMysql(MysqldConfig
> > >> > > >         .aMysqldConfig(Version.v5_7_17)
> > >> > > >         .withPort(Integer.parseInt(port))
> > >> > > >         .withUser("user", "pass")
> > >> > > >         .build());
> > >> > > > final EmbeddedMysql mysql = builder.start()
> > >> > > >         .addSchema(SchemaConfig.aSchemaConfig("test").build());
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > To write a test with a running MySQL (first time you launch it
> > >> > downloads
> > >> > > > mysql so it can be a bit long but then it is cached.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > This way we could grab it locally and investigate a bit more.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > >> > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > >> > > > <https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog
> > >> > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > >> > > https://github.com/rmannibuca
> > >> > > > u> |
> > >> > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | JavaEE
> > Factory
> > >> > > > <https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > 2017-04-27 6:06 GMT+02:00 Paul Carter-Brown
> > >> > > <paul.carter-brown@smilecoms.c
> > >> > > > om
> > >> > > > >:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > No. Autocommit is off
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Paul
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Sent from my phone. Message may be brief and contain typos.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On 27 Apr 2017 12:47 a.m., "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> > >> > rmannibu...@gmail.com
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Are you in autocommit mode?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Le 26 avr. 2017 22:37, "Paul Carter-Brown"
> > >> > > > <paul.carter-brown@smilecoms.
> > >> > > > > > com>
> > >> > > > > > a écrit :
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Hi,
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > Unfortunately, the same result with dbcp2. I also turned
> on
> > >> mysql
> > >> > > > > general
> > >> > > > > > > query log and can see the commit come through after the
> > select
> > >> > > comes
> > >> > > > in
> > >> > > > > > on
> > >> > > > > > > another connection:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > 2017-04-26T19:46:22.243742Z 20038 Query INSERT INTO
> > >> > > > > > > SmileDB.customer_profile ... <removed>
> > >> > > > > > > 2017-04-26T19:46:22.245984Z 20038 Query SELECT
> > >> LAST_INSERT_ID()
> > >> > > > > > > 2017-04-26T19:46:22.291193Z 20038 Query select
> > >> > > @@session.tx_read_only
> > >> > > > > > > 2017-04-26T19:46:22.317914Z      20031 Query     SET
> > >> autocommit=0
> > >> > > > > > > 2017-04-26T19:46:22.318088Z      20031 Query     SELECT *
> > FROM
> > >> > > > > > > SmileDB.customer_profile WHERE CUSTOMER_PROFILE_ID=1267253
> > AND
> > >> > > > > > STATUS='AC'
> > >> > > > > > > 2017-04-26T19:46:22.372481Z 20038 Query commit
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > And here is the log of the lifecycle listener getting
> commit
> > >> > > called:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > 2017/04/26 21:46:22.293 FINE    [TomEE-Exec-31][301][com.
> > >> > > > > > > smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> > SmileConnectionLifecycleInt
> > >> erc
> > >> > > > > > > eptor.commit]
> > >> > > > > > > |Commit called
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On 26 April 2017 at 17:12, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > >> > > rmannibu...@gmail.com
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > maybe switch to dbcp pool to see if it behaves the same,
> > if
> > >> not
> > >> > > can
> > >> > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > an
> > >> > > > > > > > equals/hashcode issue
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > >> > > > > > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |  Blog
> > >> > > > > > > > <https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog
> > >> > > > > > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > >> > > > > > > https://github.com/rmannibuca
> > >> > > > > > > > u> |
> > >> > > > > > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> |
> > JavaEE
> > >> > > > Factory
> > >> > > > > > > > <https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com>
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > 2017-04-26 16:45 GMT+02:00 Paul Carter-Brown <
> > >> > > > > > > > paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com>:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Hi Romain,
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > In order to better understand the commit timing, I
> have
> > >> put
> > >> > > some
> > >> > > > > > > logging
> > >> > > > > > > > in
> > >> > > > > > > > > a custom MySQL ConnectionLifecycleInterceptor so that
> I
> > >> can
> > >> > do
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > > > > stack
> > >> > > > > > > > > trace when commit is called and see where it's called
> > >> > relative
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > SOAP
> > >> > > > > > > > > service invocation. I also put a Thread.sleep(1000) in
> > the
> > >> > > commit
> > >> > > > > > > method
> > >> > > > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > > > my ConnectionLifecycleInterceptor to see how it
> > influenced
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > response
> > >> > > > > > > > > going back to the client. Whats very strange is that
> the
> > >> > 1000ms
> > >> > > > > sleep
> > >> > > > > > > > does
> > >> > > > > > > > > result in the response taking almost 1000ms longer. I
> > say
> > >> > > almost,
> > >> > > > > > > because
> > >> > > > > > > > > again when running with multiple threads, I can get a
> > >> > situation
> > >> > > > > where
> > >> > > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > response beats the completion of the commit. I cannot
> > >> create
> > >> > > this
> > >> > > > > > when
> > >> > > > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > client has only one thread. Here is a log snippet
> > showing
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > > scenario:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > 1) Here is our ConnectionLifecycleInterceptor getting
> > the
> > >> > > commit
> > >> > > > > call
> > >> > > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > > logging the stack before sleeping for 1000ms. Its
> > >> committing
> > >> > a
> > >> > > > new
> > >> > > > > > row
> > >> > > > > > > > with
> > >> > > > > > > > > ID 615867
> > >> > > > > > > > > 2017/04/26 16:22:50.592 FINE
> > >> > > > > > > > >  [TomEE-Exec-15][207][com.smile
> > >> coms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> > >> > > > > > > > > SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.commit]
> > >> > > > > > > > > |Commit called
> > >> > > > > > > > > 2017/04/26 16:22:50.593 FINE
> > >> > > > > > > > >  [TomEE-Exec-15][207][com.smile
> > >> coms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> > >> > > > > > > > > SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.commit]
> > >> > > > > > > > > |Stack in commit. Sleeping now:
> > >> > > > > > > > > java.lang.Exception
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > com.smilecoms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> > >> > > > > SmileConnectionLifecycleInterc
> > >> > > > > > > > > eptor.commit(SmileConnectionLifecycleInterc
> > eptor.java:32)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl$
> > >> > > > > > > 2.forEach(ConnectionImpl.java:
> > >> > > > > > > > > 1593)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl$
> > >> > > > > > > 2.forEach(ConnectionImpl.java:
> > >> > > > > > > > > 1592)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at com.mysql.jdbc.IterateBlock.
> > >> > > > > > doForAll(IterateBlock.java:61)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at com.mysql.jdbc.ConnectionImpl.
> > >> > > > > > > commit(ConnectionImpl.java:159
> > >> > > > > > > > 9)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor137.
> > >> > > invoke(Unknown
> > >> > > > > > > Source)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at java.lang.reflect.Method.invok
> > >> e(Method.java:498)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.ProxyConnection.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > ProxyConnection.java:126)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.JdbcInterceptor.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > JdbcInterceptor.java:108)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.tomcat.jdbc.pool.Di
> > >> sposableConnectionFacade.invok
> > >> > e(
> > >> > > > > > > > > DisposableConnectionFacade.java:81)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at com.sun.proxy.$Proxy58.commit(Unknown
> > Source)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.resource.jdbc.managed.local.
> > >> > > > > > LocalXAResource.commit(
> > >> > > > > > > > > LocalXAResource.java:131)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.
> > TransactionImpl.
> > >> > > > > > > commitResource(
> > >> > > > > > > > > TransactionImpl.java:627)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.
> > >> > > TransactionImpl.commit(
> > >> > > > > > > > > TransactionImpl.java:305)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.geronimo.transaction.manager.
> > >> > > > > > TransactionManagerImpl.commit(
> > >> > > > > > > > > TransactionManagerImpl.java:252)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.
> > JtaTransactionPolicy.
> > >> > > > > > > > > completeTransaction(JtaTransactionPolicy.java:331)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.core.transa
> > >> ction.TxRequired.commit(TxRequ
> > >> > > > > > > > ired.java:76)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.core.transaction.
> EjbTransactionUtil.
> > >> > > > > afterInvoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > EjbTransactionUtil.java:77)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.core.
> stateless.StatelessContainer._
> > >> > > > > > > > > invoke(StatelessContainer.java:271)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.core.stateless.StatelessContainer.
> > >> > > > > > > > > invoke(StatelessContainer.java:212)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.ejb.EjbMethodInvoker.
> > >> > > > > > > > > preEjbInvoke(EjbMethodInvoker.java:125)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.
> > >> ejb.EjbMethodInvoker.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > EjbMethodInvoker.java:82)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.cxf.service.invoker.AbstractInvoker.
> > >> > > > > > > > > invoke(AbstractInvoker.java:74)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.cxf.interceptor.
> ServiceInvokerInterceptor$1.
> > >> > > > > > > > > run(ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:59)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.
> > >> > > > > > > call(Executors.java:511)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at java.util.concurrent.FutureTas
> > >> k.run(FutureTask.
> > >> > > > > java:266)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.cxf.interceptor.
> ServiceInvokerInterceptor$2.
> > >> > > > > > > > > run(ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:126)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.cxf.workqueue.SynchronousExecutor.execute(
> > >> > > > > > > > > SynchronousExecutor.java:37)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.cxf.interceptor.ServiceInvokerInterceptor.
> > >> > > > > handleMessage(
> > >> > > > > > > > > ServiceInvokerInterceptor.java:131)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.cxf.phase.PhaseInterceptorChain.
> doIntercept(
> > >> > > > > > > > > PhaseInterceptorChain.java:308)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.cxf.transport.Chain
> > >> InitiationObserver.onMessage(
> > >> > > > > > > > > ChainInitiationObserver.java:121)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.cxf.transport.http.
> > >> AbstractHTTPDestination.invoke
> > >> > (
> > >> > > > > > > > > AbstractHTTPDestination.java:262)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.
> CxfWsContainer.onMessage(
> > >> > > > > > > > > CxfWsContainer.java:85)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.openejb.server.webs
> > >> ervices.WsServlet.service(WsSe
> > >> > > > > > > > rvlet.java:98)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.catalina.core.Appli
> > >> cationFilterChain.internalDoFi
> > >> > > > lter(
> > >> > > > > > > > > ApplicationFilterChain.java:230)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.
> > doFilter(
> > >> > > > > > > > > ApplicationFilterChain.java:165)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > StandardWrapperValve.java:198)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > StandardContextValve.java:96)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > StandardHostValve.java:140)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > ErrorReportValve.java:79)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.tomee.catalina.Open
> > >> EJBSecurityListener$RequestCap
> > >> > > > > > > > turer.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > OpenEJBSecurityListener.java:97)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(
> > >> > > > > > > > > StandardEngineValve.java:87)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(
> > >> > > > > > > > > CoyoteAdapter.java:349)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.coyote.http11.Http1
> > >> 1Processor.service(Http11Proce
> > >> > > > > > > > ssor.java:783)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.coyote.AbstractProcessorLight.process(
> > >> > > > > > > > > AbstractProcessorLight.java:66)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.coyote.AbstractProtocol$ConnectionHandler.
> > >> > process(
> > >> > > > > > > > > AbstractProtocol.java:798)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.tomcat.util.net.
> NioEndpoint$SocketProcessor.
> > >> > > > > > > > > doRun(NioEndpoint.java:1434)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.tomcat.util.net.SocketProcessorBase.run(
> > >> > > > > > > > > SocketProcessorBase.java:49)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(
> > >> > > > > > > > > ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(
> > >> > > > > > > > > ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at
> > >> > > > > > > > > org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.TaskThread$
> > >> > > WrappingRunnable.run(
> > >> > > > > > > > > TaskThread.java:61)
> > >> > > > > > > > >         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > 2) Now here is the clients request being processed in
> > our
> > >> EJB
> > >> > > > > looking
> > >> > > > > > > for
> > >> > > > > > > > > the row that was created above but is not finished
> > >> committing
> > >> > > > yet.
> > >> > > > > > The
> > >> > > > > > > > row
> > >> > > > > > > > > with ID 615867 is not found.
> > >> > > > > > > > > 2017/04/26 16:22:51.588 FINE
> > >> > > > > > > > >  [TomEE-Exec-10][202][com.
> smilecoms.im.IdentityManager.
> > >> > > > > getCustomers]
> > >> > > > > > > > > |Looking up a single customer with ID [615867]
> > >> > > > > > > > > 3) Here is the sleep having finished.
> > >> > > > > > > > > 2017/04/26 16:22:51.594 FINE
> > >> > > > > > > > >  [TomEE-Exec-15][207][com.smile
> > >> coms.commons.base.lifecycle.
> > >> > > > > > > > > SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor.commit]
> > >> > > > > > > > > |Commit sleep finished
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > I would expect that only after 2017/04/26 16:22:51.594
> > >> would
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > > client
> > >> > > > > > > > > receive the SOAP response to the insert but clearly
> that
> > >> is
> > >> > not
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > case.
> > >> > > > > > > > > It is slowed down by the sleep but there still seems
> to
> > be
> > >> > some
> > >> > > > > race
> > >> > > > > > > > > condition where it somehow can still beat the commit
> > >> > returning.
> > >> > > > If
> > >> > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > commit were called after sending the response or in
> > >> parallel
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > doing
> > >> > > > > > > so
> > >> > > > > > > > > then I would have expected the 1000ms sleep to not
> > impact
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > > response
> > >> > > > > > > > time
> > >> > > > > > > > > of the service. Very very strange....
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Here is the code snippet of my
> > >> SmileConnectionLifecycleInterc
> > >> > > > > eptor:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > public class SmileConnectionLifecycleInterceptor
> > >> implements
> > >> > > > > > > > > ConnectionLifecycleInterceptor {
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >     private static final Logger log =
> > >> > > > > > > > > LoggerFactory.getLogger(
> SmileConnectionLifecycleInterc
> > >> > > > > eptor.class);
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >     @Override
> > >> > > > > > > > >     public boolean commit() throws SQLException {
> > >> > > > > > > > >         log.debug("Commit called");
> > >> > > > > > > > >         log.debug("Stack in commit. Sleeping now: ",
> new
> > >> > > > > > Exception());
> > >> > > > > > > > >         try {
> > >> > > > > > > > >             Thread.sleep(1000);
> > >> > > > > > > > >         } catch (Exception e) {
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >         }
> > >> > > > > > > > >         log.debug("Commit sleep finished");
> > >> > > > > > > > >         return true;
> > >> > > > > > > > >     }
> > >> > > > > > > > > ...
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Any thoughts?
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Paul
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > On 26 April 2017 at 13:50, Paul Carter-Brown <
> > >> > > > > > > > > paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Thought so. Let me try and create a reproducable
> test
> > >> case
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > let
> > >> > > > > > > you
> > >> > > > > > > > > > know what i find
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Paul
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Sent from my phone. Message may be brief and contain
> > >> typos.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > On 26 Apr 2017 13:35, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> > >> > > > > rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> Hi
> > >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> Shouldn't be possible since it would assume this
> > flow:
> > >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> thread1. start tx                  | thread2. -
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> thread1. create the entry    | thread2. -
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> thread1. serialize the entry | thread2. -
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> thread1. commit tx              | thread2. - find
> the
> > >> > entry
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> thread1.                              | thread2. -
> > >> fails
> > >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> The commit will happen
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> in org.apache.openejb.server.cxf.
> > >> > > ejb.EjbMethodInvoker#invoke
> > >> > > > > > where
> > >> > > > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> serialization happens after
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> in org.apache.cxf.jaxb.io.
> DataWriterImpl#write(java.
> > >> > > > > lang.Object,
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> org.apache.cxf.service.model.MessagePartInfo, T)
> > >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> Only case it should be possible to happen is if you
> > >> > wrapped
> > >> > > > > jaxws
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> servlet/layer with a custom transaction management
> > >> > (through
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > > > > filter
> > >> > > > > > > > for
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> instance) which would start/commit outside default
> > >> JAXWS
> > >> > > > > handling.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> Romain Manni-Bucau
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |
> > Blog
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> <https://blog-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com> | Old Blog
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
> |
> > >> > JavaEE
> > >> > > > > > Factory
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> <https://javaeefactory-rmannibucau.rhcloud.com>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> 2017-04-26 12:59 GMT+02:00 Paul Carter-Brown <
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com>:
> > >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Hi
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > I have a call flow as follows in tomee:
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > 1. Client calls jaxws service that adds a row
> into
> > >> mysql
> > >> > > > > table.
> > >> > > > > > > EJB
> > >> > > > > > > > is
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > using JTA with eclipselink JPA entity bean.
> Seevice
> > >> > > returns
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > primary
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> key
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > of the row just added.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > 2. Client uses returned soap message that
> contains
> > >> the
> > >> > > > primary
> > >> > > > > > key
> > >> > > > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > calls a second service that does a select for the
> > >> row in
> > >> > > > > > question.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > The service in 1 and 2 is in the same tomee
> > instance
> > >> and
> > >> > > > > caching
> > >> > > > > > > in
> > >> > > > > > > > > jpa
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> is
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > disabled. Tx isolation isread committed.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Under high load and concurrency doing about 1000
> > tps
> > >> i
> > >> > get
> > >> > > > > > about a
> > >> > > > > > > > 20%
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > failure rate where the service at stage 2 cannot
> > find
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > row
> > >> > > > > > > > inserted
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> at
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > stage 1. The row is inserted at some stage as i
> do
> > >> see
> > >> > it
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > db.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> Its as
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > though service 1 is returning prior to the
> database
> > >> > having
> > >> > > > > > > committed
> > >> > > > > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > data. My understanding is that this should not be
> > >> > possible
> > >> > > > as
> > >> > > > > it
> > >> > > > > > > > would
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > create all sorts of inconsistencies. Is what i am
> > >> > > observing
> > >> > > > > > > expected
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > behaviour?
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Paul
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Sent from my phone. Message may be brief and
> > contain
> > >> > > typos.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > --
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> > This email is subject to the disclaimer of Smile
> > >> > > > > Communications
> > >> > > > > > at
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> <
> > >> > > > > > > > > >> http://www.smilecoms.com/
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> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > *Paul Carter-Brown*
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > *Group Chief Information Officer*
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > *Smile Communications Pty (Ltd)       *
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> > >> > > > > > > > > paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com
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> > >> > > > > > > > >
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> > >> > Communications
> > >> > > > at
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> > >> > > > > > > > http://www.smilecoms.com/
> > >> > > > > > > > > disclaimer>
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > --
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > *Paul Carter-Brown*
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > *Group Chief Information Officer*
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > *Smile Communications Pty (Ltd)       *
> > >> > > > > > > Smile +234 (0) 702 000 1234 <+234%20702%20000%201234>
> > >> > > > > > > Mobile +27 (0) 83 4427 179
> > >> > > > > > > Skype PaulC-B
> > >> > > > > > > paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com
> > >> > > > > > > www.smilecoms.com
> > >> > > > > > >
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> > >> Communications
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> > >> > > > > > http://www.smilecoms.com/
> > >> > > > > > > disclaimer>
> > >> > > > > > >
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> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > This email is subject to the disclaimer of Smile
> Communications
> > at
> > >> > > > > http://www.smilecoms.com/home/email-disclaimer/ <
> > >> > > > http://www.smilecoms.com/
> > >> > > > > disclaimer>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *Paul Carter-Brown*
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *Group Chief Information Officer*
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *Smile Communications Pty (Ltd)       *
> > >> > > Smile +234 (0) 702 000 1234 <+234%20702%20000%201234>
> > >> > > Mobile +27 (0) 83 4427 179
> > >> > > Skype PaulC-B
> > >> > > paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com
> > >> > > www.smilecoms.com
> > >> > >
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> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> *Paul Carter-Brown*
> > >>
> > >> *Group Chief Information Officer*
> > >>
> > >> *Smile Communications Pty (Ltd)       *
> > >> Smile +234 (0) 702 000 1234
> > >> Mobile +27 (0) 83 4427 179
> > >> Skype PaulC-B
> > >> paul.carter-br...@smilecoms.com
> > >> www.smilecoms.com
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >> http://www.smilecoms.com/home/email-disclaimer/ <
> > >> http://www.smilecoms.com/disclaimer>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Paul Carter-Brown*
>
> *Group Chief Information Officer*
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