Also late response... sorry about that.

I'm +1 on removing this, "clustering" as a concept is an okay thing-- but
clustering in ATS today requires L2 connectivity-- which in practice most
people can't really use.

Even if that was a viable option, the clustering doesn't give enough
controls for operability (canaries, etc.) so it ends up being more of a
problem.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 4:09 PM, McClimont, Aaron (SACE) <
aaron.mcclim...@sa.gov.au> wrote:

> Bryan,
>
>   Some (more) late feedback for the proposal to remove clustering
> support... We are also using clustering for the management of configuration
> between multiple load balancing nodes using cluster.type = 1 (full),
> although we could get by with cluster.type = 2 (management only). We would
> certainly appreciate at least the configuration management being supported
> in 7.0.0+, we don't specifically need the clustered cache feature.
>
> Regards,
>
> Aaron McClimont
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Call [mailto:bc...@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2016 4:29 AM
> To: users@trafficserver.apache.org
> Cc: d...@trafficserver.apache.org
> Subject: [PROPOSAL] Removing clustering support in 7.0.0
>
> After discussing with the other committers on the project we have decided
> to remove the clustering feature in ATS 7.0.0.
>
> There are people in the community that are using configuration management
> (Puppet, Chef, Salt, etc.) for large installations.  If you need help on
> syncing configuration outside of ATS, there is a very good chance other
> people in the community would be willing to help.  This might be a great
> opportunity to add some tools or examples to ATS to help out other people
> in the community with configuration management.
>
> Thank you,
>
> -Bryan
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Nguyen, Hai <hngu...@forcepoint.com> wrote:
> >
> > We are running Management-Only clustering (cluster.type = 2)
> >
> > From: Bryan Call [mailto:bc...@apache.org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 4:33 PM
> > To: Nguyen, Hai
> > Cc: d...@trafficserver.apache.org; users@trafficserver.apache.org
> > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing clustering support
> > in7.0.0
> >
> > What cluster mode are you running (proxy.local.cluster.type)?
> >
> > -Bryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 29, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Nguyen, Hai <hngu...@forcepoint.com> wrote:
> >
> > We are using clustering to share configuration settings in environments
> that do load balancing across multiple proxies.  Administrators that have
> large deployments would need to configure every proxy manually.
> >
> > -Hai
> > From: Bryan Call [mailto:bc...@apache.org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 3:52 PM
> > To: Nguyen, Hai
> > Cc: d...@trafficserver.apache.org; users@trafficserver.apache.org
> > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing clustering support in
> > 7.0.0
> >
> > Can you talk about how you are using the clustering feature?  Would
> parent proxying also work for your use case?
> >
> > -Bryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 29, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Nguyen, Hai <hngu...@forcepoint.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’m sorry for sending the feedback on this proposal late. Can we please
> keep the clustering feature? We’ve been using it extensively here.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Hai
> >
> > From: Bryan Call [mailto:bc...@apache.org]
> > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 3:20 PM
> > To: d...@trafficserver.apache.org
> > Cc: users@trafficserver.apache.org
> > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [PROPOSAL] Removing clustering support in 7.0.0
> >
> > Thank you for all the feedback on this proposal.  Removing clustering
> support will be done in 7.0.0.
> >
> > -Bryan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 20, 2016, at 6:33 PM, Leif Hedstrom <zw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2016, at 3:18 PM, James Peach <jpe...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Bryan Call <bc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > There are a few features we are looking to remove in the ATS 7.0.0
> release.  If you are using these features and require them, please respond
> to this email.  We also need to have people that are willing to invest time
> and fix some of the bugs for these features.   Your feedback is very
> important!
> >
> > There are a number of bugs filed against clustering.  There are
> alternatives to using clustering, such as parent selection and the CARP
> plugin that Yahoo is open sourcing.  If we are going to keep clustering
> supporting we would need someone that is willing to work on the bugs.
> >
> > The proposal is to remove the configurations options for clustering and
> remove the code for it.
> >
> > I've seen a few people asking about clustering recently, so it seems
> like there is interest. But it *really* needs a code owner to make it live.
> Count me as a +0.
> >
> >
> > A serious issue with the lack of developer support is that other areas
> of the code suffers. Meaning, we have a hard time making progress with
> other areas (like metrics, or configurations), because we don’t have anyone
> who’s testing and maintaining the clustering feature.
> >
> > This is a tough one though, the general feature is useful, but we’re
> seriously crippling ourselves with an unsupported legacy system.
> >
> > +0 from me as well.
> >
> > — Leif
> >
> >
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