Sorry Eelco but I did not start this small personal war. In my previus of topic 
marked post I said lot of good about wicket and made lot of PLEASE do this ... 
I know you have lot of work ... IMHO ... and so on ... Also thanked to Gwyn? 
... :-))) Al getted touched about my troubles with Maven, you started to 
talking b.s. and mindless way of something and started to solve and the same 
time started to solve some morality questions and so on.  Gwyn started to look 
for truth in Joke :-)) POint me in one of my post when I said about Maven, or 
your work, that it is b.s. or mindless something. ... YOu will not find it. And 
also any personal negative sentences towards to any of the developers.

I`m not trying to be polite. I`m rying to be correct to people. At the same 
time you are too polite and agresive ... :-)

So after more than 26 hours of programming and mailing I`ll go for a Little bit 
of sleep. :-))

Bye
Robo


----- Originálna Správa -----
Od: \"Eelco Hillenius\"  
Komu:  
Poslaná: 06.09.2007 19:54 
Predmet: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wicket libraries stack trace

> On 06 Sep 2007 18:32:44 +0200 (CEST), Robo  wrote:
> > Yes I know Eelco. That is why there are so much troubles in Java 
> > programming land. Misusing of basic concepts ... That is why one needs some 
> > sort of COC, because there is lot`s of b.s. around ... J2EE 1.4 countained 
> > so much of it that lots of developers refused to use it And it had to be 
> > rewriten ... Apache Struts ... JSF ... Why did you started Wicket? Did`nt 
> > you wrote that MVC is kind of missconceptin? And I ask you Who told that? 
> > Eelco Hilenius? Yes and you were probably right. And in that time you with 
> > the tapestry was alone against the JSF Struts community. So accpet pleace 
> > that someone else is seeing miisconceptions and b.s. in other aspetcs of 
> > java programming and habits. OK? :-)
> 
> Sure. You know, if you would just try to have a little bit more of a
> constructive tone... I\'m sure we can patch wicket-velocity so that it
> avoids pulling in Velocity too early. And maybe the project tries to
> do too much upfront. Should be pretty easy to fix if you want to
> create a JIRA issue for it.
> 
> About calling initializers (that\'s what triggers Velocity loading in
> this case), the feature is generally nice. We can use it to e.g.
> automatically register shared resources or like wicket-jmx does,
> register resources, so that to enable functionality in that lib is as
> easy as dropping in a jar. That\'s pretty cool functionality in my
> book.
> 
> Eelco
> 
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