> > Matej Knopp-2 wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've committed couple of changes to DiskPageStore to address some
> > > issues. Mind you the commit is rather fresh and needs to be tested
> > > properly before 1.3.1 gets out.
> > >
> > > First of all it solves the problem of context reloads (see
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1161). When context is
> > > reloaded, the DiskPageStore index is no longer lost and all serialized
> > > page files can be used as if no reload has happened.
> > >
> > > The other improvement is better clustering support
> > > (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-1272). The back button
> > > support is improved in clustered environment and also the memory
> > > consumption is reduced significantly.
> > >
> > > What's new? Imagine a simplified environment, cluster with two nodes
> > > (NodeA and NodeB). All sessions from a NodeA are replicated to NodeB
> > > and vice versa.
> > >
> > > When a page instance is being replicated from NodeA to NodeB, it is
> > > immediately stored to DiskPageStore on nodeB, rather than kept in
> > > session. This means that the instance is later accessible on NodeB
> > > even after another page from the same pagemap has been replicated to
> > > NodeB, because it's already stored in DiskPageStore. Also it doesn't
> > > have to be kept in memory, significantly reducing the session state.
> > >
> > >
> > > There is one exception though, where the backbutton won't work across
> > > cluster. Imagine following scenario:
> > >
> > > Session is created to NodeA
> > > NodeB goes down
> > > User visits page1, page2, page3 on NodeA  (these pages were not
> > > replicated to NodeB, because the node is not available)
> > > NodeB goes up
> > >
> > > only page3 (the last accessed page in it's pagemap) will be available
> > > on NodeB. page1 and page2 are not available, because when they were
> > > visited NodeB was not running. page3 is available, because it was
> > > active in nodeA session, thus got replicated to NodeB when the context
> > > on NodeB was initialized.

> 
> On Jan 9, 2008 10:24 PM, Jonathan Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ideally, NodeB ought to "catch up" when it joins the cluster by
> > syncing the content in the disk page stores at that time.  I think
> > it's a flaw we should track and fix at some point.
> >
> > Nice job, Matej!
> 

On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 22:35 -0800, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
> this cant be accomplished transparently. we would need our own network
> connection, node discovery, blah blah blah. loses a bit of appeal.
> 
> -igor
> 
> 

I'm intending to stir the pot a bit, but why are we kicking this further?  Igor 
is absolutely right..  For something simple, currently in the linux kernel try

drbd [1]

1) Nodes can catch up/sync
2) It'll be faster than anything you can do inside java
3) transparent to the application
4) debugged and proven to work inside a production env
5) means you can revert your changes and we don't have to worry/test anything
-----------------------------------

To be honest you may be on the right path long term and I don't currently have 
a better suggestion, but we are really reinventing the wheel here which leads 
me to be highly cautious.

Thanks

./C


[1] http://www.drbd.org/


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