Based on this page in wiki:
http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/stateless-pages.html a page is stateless if
all the components in it are stateless.
My sign in page contains a SignInPanel (from wicket-auth-roles) and 2 links.
I can change the links to StatelessLink, but how can I make SignInPanel
(that contains a Form, not a StatelessForm) stateless? Is writing my own
version of it the only solution?

-Roberto


igor.vaynberg wrote:
> 
> is your sign in page stateless? if its not it will need to be stored in
> session.
> 
> re ddos attacks, its really the job of the application server to
> prevent an exorbitant amount of sessions opened from what looks like
> the same ip or however it decides to do that. ie there are plenty of
> jsp/struts applications that create a session on the first hit.
> 
> what wicket does is provide a page eviction strategy so once created
> an attacker cannot grow the session infinitely
> 
> -igor
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Roberto Fasciolo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  Our application is totally hidden behind authentication, so in our case
>> the
>>  session (I'm talking about an object extending AuthenticatedWebSession)
>> is
>>  created without any page navigation, just by opening the sign in page.
>>
>>  Anyway, how can you deal with DoS attacks? I mean, it'll be really easy
>> to
>>  write a small script continuously opening pages on a wicket site (or
>>  creating new sessions) until the site would die by OutOfMemoryError.
>>
>>  But back in track, I don't see anything bad in, instead creating a new
>>  session just for calling getRoles() and getting null, returning directly
>>  null (= user not in any role) if the user never signed in before.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  igor.vaynberg wrote:
>>  >
>>  > wicket uses session to store pages, so creating a session is
>>  > orthogonal to authorizing/authenticating a user
>>  >
>>  > -igor
>>  >
>>  > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Roberto Fasciolo
>>  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>  Hi,
>>  >>
>>  >>  I noticed some strange behavior on my webapplication that has
>>  >> authorization
>>  >>  in place (by using Roles).
>>  >>
>>  >>  It seems that Wicket creates a session for checking the role of the
>> user
>>  >>  even the user has not logged in. I'd guess the preferred behavior
>> would
>>  >> be
>>  >>  that wicket would in this occasion first check if there is a session
>> and
>>  >> if
>>  >>  not, then just let the authorization fail instead of creating
>> session
>>  >> and
>>  >>  then checking if role is there.
>>  >>
>>  >>  I did simple trace to find what is calling MySession constructor:
>>  >>
>>  >>  public MySession(final AuthenticatedWebApplication application,
>>  >>                         final Request request) {
>>  >>         super(application, request);
>>  >>         this.logger.error("Created session", new Throwable());
>>  >>  }
>>  >>
>>  >>  18:56:16,634 (btpool0-5) ERROR [MySession] - Created session
>>  >>  java.lang.Throwable
>>  >>         at MySession.<init>(MySession.java:39)
>>  >>         at
>> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native
>>  >>  Method)
>>  >>         at
>>  >>
>>  >>
>> sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
>>  >>         at
>>  >>
>>  >>
>> sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
>>  >>         at
>>  >> java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:513)
>>  >>         at
>>  >>
>>  >>
>> org.apache.wicket.authentication.AuthenticatedWebApplication.newSession(AuthenticatedWebApplication.java:114)
>>  >>
>>  >>         at org.apache.wicket.Session.findOrCreate(Session.java:225)
>>  >>         at org.apache.wicket.Session.findOrCreate(Session.java:208)
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