Before we do a vote I want to make sure what our alternatives are.

I still like Joni's alternative. I don't think they are an
abomination, because the /potential/ class cast exception you get is
the same as with current 1.3. But the benefit of documenting the model
parameters in DDC, LV, etc. is HUGE.

I really appreciate the time and effort that went into implementing
the generification. But I also see what kind of mess this brought and
I really don't like the Component generification part.

Martijn

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok so we pretty much have some core people wanting to back out the
> generics support.
>
> shall we start a vote? johan, gerolf and i have spent a ridiculous
> amount of time trying to generify the codebase and remove all the
> shitty warnings. if there is even a slight chance of this getting
> backed out i do not want to spend any more time on this until the
> issue is resolved.
>
> also we should halt m2 until this is resolved.
>
> personally i do not mind backing out generics, they turned out to be
> quiet a disappointment for me as well, but my feelings about this are
> not strong.
>
> we can still use generics such as setresponsepage(class<? extends
> page>) to gain bits of typesafety here and there, but if we remove
> them from component we obviously have to remove them from imodel.
>
> so lets start a vote with a parallel discussion thread just for this.
>
> -igor
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Martijn Dashorst
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Generics is type safety
>>
>> I didn't say generics isn't type safety. But APPLYING generics for the
>> Wicket framework API *ISN'T* its primary goal. API clarity *IS*. Less
>> questions on the mailing list regarding DDC, ListView, etc. is the
>> main goal for applying generics in Wicket.
>>
>>> I am against this abuse big time -1000 from me
>>
>> I'm -1000000000000000^1000000000000 for abusing my eyes and brain in
>> the way it currently is implemented in Wicket. It is completely and
>> utterly unusable for beginners. There is no way this is going to make
>> the number of questions on the mailinglist less (other than by scaring
>> away anyone that wants to actually use the framework)
>>
>> Martijn
>>
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