I *have* used the m1 release and although its not yet an RC and there
are some issues to work out, it was a breath of fresh air.

The biggest problem I had was understanding <what> kind of type to set
things to, but once I sorted that out for a component, it made working
with it later much easier.

It not clean yet which made it a bit of a pain and I can understand
why some would balk, but I can *definitely* see the joy on the
horizon.

that's my "personal experience" rather that my "professional opinion".


- Brill Pappin

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Eelco Hillenius
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> i think we should have qualified this rfi with a requirement that
>>> responders use 1.4 on a non-trivial project...these things only become
>>> apparent from real-world day-to-day usage. anything else is pretty
>>> much speculation.
>>
>> As for speculation... I don't agree. I haven't converted yet, but it
>> is easy enough to just look at any old piece of code I'm working on
>> now and imagine what it will look like after changing to 1.4.
>
> and there are also a lot of pain points that you will not imagine that
> do exist :) i am wondering how many of the "keep as is in trunk" votes
> came from people who only imagined what their code would look like and
> havent actually hit the numerous pain points those of us who did code
> gainst it hit.
>
> i was of the "generify component and model" mind while i was
> generifying the framework, but after coding against it i began to see
> some of the ugliness and now my mind is almost changed.
>
> -igor
>
>
>>
>> Eelco
>>
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