Ah, I just saw Autowired and the fact that you answered within three
minutes. I thought I wasn't clear enough, but apparently I was. I have
to say I'm *very* impressed! :-)

I'll check this out more and I'll post my results here later on (after
that I'll go into your other tip [in the other mail list thread]).
Your Wicket Advanced example has been very educational (for me) to
look at, I highly recommend it to others!

If this works out I may be getting close to my dream development
environment. :-)

Until later!

Best regards Kent



On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:22 PM, James Carman
<jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> No, I mean @Configurable/@Autowired
>
> http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.5.x/api/org/springframework/beans/factory/annotation/Configurable.html
>
> http://static.springframework.org/spring/docs/2.5.x/api/org/springframework/beans/factory/annotation/Autowired.html
>
>
> With these, you can also use AspectJ to set things up.  There are
> aspects in spring-aspects.jar that takes care of it.  You have to
> introduce the AspectJ compiler into your build, but I believe that's
> done for you in my wicket-advanced example application.
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kent Larsson <kent.lars...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You mean @SpringConfigured("something") like in the linked article?
>>
>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM, James Carman
>> <jcar...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> In your entities, you don't use @SpringBean.  You use 
>>> @Configurable/@Autowire.
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Kent Larsson <kent.lars...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Our current architecture:
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> We're currently using a 3-tier architecture (presentation,
>>>> service/business and persistence) consisting of Wicket (+ a little
>>>> Spring), Spring and Spring + Hibernate:
>>>>
>>>> Wicket:
>>>>
>>>> Does presentation, we're not inside a transaction / Hibernate session
>>>> so all used fields must be loaded by Spring. We call Spring singleton
>>>> beans and annotate those fields with @SpringBean.
>>>>
>>>> Spring:
>>>>
>>>> In the service layer we have Spring singleton beans, services, which
>>>> are called from the Wicket layer. We have our transaction / Hibernate
>>>> session boundary at this layer. We call DAO's from this layer.
>>>>
>>>> Spring + Hibernate:
>>>>
>>>> Our DAO's are Spring singleton beans which performs database
>>>> operations using HibernateTemplate.
>>>>
>>>> And common to all the layers are our entities. We use the @Entity
>>>> annotation on them (not XML), from the Wicket layer we just use the
>>>> accessor methods making sure that the relevant fields are loaded (as
>>>> we would get an exception if they were Lazy and not yet loaded). Our
>>>> entities are stupid, they lack logic and are used mostly like a struct
>>>> in C/C++.
>>>>
>>>> I think the general pattern is pretty common for Java EE and Spring
>>>> based web applications (feel free to disagree!). Yet it's classified
>>>> as an anti-pattern by Martin Fowler as we are using mostly procedural
>>>> programming and have an anemic domain model (
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anemic_Domain_Model ).
>>>>
>>>> What I would like:
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> I would like to use a more OOP approach and have logic in our current
>>>> entities, creating a rich domain model. For that to work in all cases
>>>> they need to be able to load and save data. I would still use a Spring
>>>> singleton bean's for different services. But instead of changing the
>>>> entities like structs they would be rich objects capable of chaning
>>>> themself's and other objects.
>>>>
>>>> I found this article very interesting:
>>>> http://www.nofluffjuststuff.com/blog_detail.jsp?rssItemId=96860
>>>>
>>>> But how would something like that work with Wicket? Could I just use
>>>> @SpringBean like I'm currently doing but use it on both "entities" and
>>>> Spring singleton services?
>>>>
>>>> For me this has a purely practical benefit, as I could use some
>>>> inheritance in the domain object model to create different variations
>>>> of logic and not just data. Wicket feels quite agile and nice to work
>>>> with, but I still feel that the current architecture is a bit stale
>>>> and seldom supports elegant OO solutions (that said, of course things
>>>> can still be solved elegantly, I just think it would be easier if I
>>>> could do it in a more OO oriented way).
>>>>
>>>> Comments? What are the pros and cons of this kind of architecture?
>>>>
>>>> All comments are greatly appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> Best regards, Kent
>>>>
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