The focus these days are to simplify frameworks, for instance take
guice and warp persist. Really really simple to use and to setup.
Spring has a bit to learn about java configuration from these guys (I
last time I tried spring was in 2.5) however I've only tried guice
1.0.

If it takes 1 day to utilize a framework that can find a whale, it's
probably wort the effort. On the other hand if it requires 50% of the
project plan, it's probably not.

pro's with guice are: plain java (no need for extra tools, just like
wicket), refactor safe, KISS, and works like I thought it would:)

cons: a little more intrusive since configuration are in java,
although very simple to extend to property files or db (it's just
java)

pros with spring: huge framework (you think of something, they
probably got it somewhere), less intrusive

cons: xml based, huge framework..

Anyhow both frameworks go nicely with mocking etc...

my 2 cents.



2009/6/9 Martin Makundi <[email protected]>:
>> Ok, I think we can just agree to disagree, but will you do me a favor?
>>  When (not if) you encounter a situation like Martijn is talking
>> about, will you post back to the list?
>
> I just believe in principle that hunting for some bug for 3 weeks is
> much less waste than dragging some toolkit along for 3 years, 6-man
> team, 100-man team, however big the more waste. Usually only few
> people hunt for the bug for 3 weeks.
>
> And it is true, it is important to know what to do yourself and what not to.
>
> **
> Martin
>
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