Martin,

Nokia has never been able to do JavaScript right. The other traditional
phone manufacturers have not done any better. Same is true for most
everything about their phone (e.g. their user-interfaces).

Most businesses I work with do not spend much time or money with this
type of phone. For instance, if you point it to mobile.walmart.com, you
get the most basic experience only. No JavaScript used in this one. Same
is true for m.wellsfargo.com. If you use Android or an iPhone, there is
plenty of Wicket JavaScript and the UI is significantly richer.

One of the reasons for this is that while there are still many of these
types of phones out there, their users do not use MWeb and have no
ability to use apps. No sense spending money there when the majority of
actual MWeb users have Web-Kit based browser that do Wicket Ajax
perfectly. :) 

Best regards,

Joachim

On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 07:51 +1000, Chris Colman wrote: 

> Whoops! That should have read 'Nokia E51' - I accidentally mixed the
> brand name of my previous phone with the model number of my current
> phone.
> 
> >Should a Motorola E51 be able to use a stock standard wicket site with
> a
> >bit of AJAX? Apparently its browser has javascript support (and it is
> >enabled) but I can never get any parts of our wicket website that
> >require AJAX to work on this phone.
> >
> >Any idea why not?
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Martin Funk [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 16 June 2010 7:10 PM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: Re: Wicket and mobile browsers
> >>
> >>Thank you for the hint, mobileaware wasn't on my radar so far.
> >>
> >>2010/6/15 Joachim F. Kainz <[email protected]>
> >>
> >>> Martin,
> >>>
> >>> WURFL is a great solution, but there are some problems with keeping
> >it
> >>> up-to-date for commercial applications.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.mobileaware.com/ is a good commercial vendor I have used
> >for
> >>> m.wellsfarg.com and other sites. They have an extensive
> >>> device-repository and a lot of other useful features for building
> >MWeb
> >>> sites. Downside: $$$
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Joachim
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 17:36 +0200, Martin Funk wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi Giovanni,
> >>> >
> >>> > on what basis do you do the device recognition and classification?
> >>> >
> >>> > Currently we are looking into wurfl http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/
> >>> > Any opion on tha? Or do you know of an alternative to wurfl?
> >>> >
> >>> > mf
> >>> >
> >>> > 2010/6/15 Joachim F. Kainz <[email protected]>
> >>> >
> >>> > > Giovanni,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I am one of the developers of mobile.walmart.com. We are using
> >Wicket
> >>> to
> >>> > > support all types of cell phones, but most of our traffic is
> from
> >>smart
> >>> > > phones. If you point to our site using iPhone, Blackberry, and
> >>Motorola
> >>> > > Razor you get three different experience. All three experiences
> >are
> >>> > > backed by the same Java code.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > We have nothing to do with visural wicket (even though at first
> >>glance
> >>> > > it looks interesting). Our opensource components are at
> >>> > > http://code.google.com/p/jolira-tools/
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Best regards,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Joachim
> >>> > > http://www.jolira.com
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 13:02 -0500, Jeremy Thomerson wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > There are many classes of smart phones available.  Some
> support
> >n
> >>JS,
> >>> > > some
> >>> > > > very limited, while others support just about anything you can
> >put
> >>in
> >>> a
> >>> > > > regular browser.  Because of this, you may use the same java
> >code
> >>> with
> >>> > > three
> >>> > > > or four different styles of markup so that each browser class
> >has
> >>its
> >>> own
> >>> > > > markup.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Search the list for "mobile.walmart.com" and see the post made
> >by
> >>> the
> >>> > > guys
> >>> > > > that created that site.  It talked about this.  They also
> >released
> >>> some
> >>> > > open
> >>> > > > source components - visural wicket.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > --
> >>> > > > Jeremy Thomerson
> >>> > > > http://www.wickettraining.com
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Giovanni
> <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > I need to write a web application which will be accessed via
> >>mobile
> >>> > > > > browsers from smartphones.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > What are the smartphone browsers which work well with
> Wicket?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > What kind of attention should I pay during the development
> of
> >>> Wicket
> >>> > > > > applications for mobile devices?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Is there any tutorial about developing Wicket applications
> >for
> >>> mobile
> >>> > > > > target browsers?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Thanks in advance for any help.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > giovanni
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > >
> >>>
> >
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