Vincent Massol wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:22 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
> 
>> hel-o wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To remove the list formatting you can either use the outdent button  
>>> from
>>> the tool bar or place the caret before "item1" and press Shift+Tab.
>>>
>>> The behavior you describe can be reproduced also in the default  
>>> editor (
>>> http://www.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/ ) and I think it is the  
>>> correct
>>> one. It may not be natural at first look, but consider the following
>>> example:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dont know but just tried openoffice and there you remove list  
>>> formatting with the list formatting butten and change the indent of  
>>> the list with the outdent button.
>> Yes, I know, but the fact that Open Office has this behavior doesn't
>> necessarily mean it is the best one. You can open an issue and if  
>> others
>> share your opinion then we'll have to change the current behavior. My
>> worry is that the current behavior is useful in some cases and we  
>> could
>> loose this advantage.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 3. When you undo the list formating and redo the list formating a  
>>>> paragraph is added between the two list items
>>>>
>>>> - item1
>>>>
>>>> - item2
>>> I need more input on this. How do you get the list in the first  
>>> place?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i had an list with two items
>>>
>>> - item1
>>> - item2
> 
> step1
> 
>>>
>>> removed the list formatting with the list formatting button
>>>
>>> item1
>>>
>>> - item2
> 
> step2
> 
>>>
>>> and changed the formatting to list formatting again
>>>
>>> - item1
>>>
>>> - item2
> 
> step3
> 
>> This is somehow normal because you have created two lists. Now, I  
>> can't
>> think of a reason why the user would want the two lists to be  
>> separated
>> so I think they should be automatically merged into a single list with
>> two items. Can you open an issue for this?
> 
> I'm not sure about this one. The current behavior sounds right to me.  
> It sounds a bit too "magic"' to me to merge them automatically and I'm  
> sure there are use case where you can have 2 lists one after another.  
> This is valid in wiki syntax and we need that to be valid in the  
> wysiwyg editor too.
> 
> More precisely step2 sounds correct to me since the user is making the  
> item outside of the list so you need the new line since it becomes a  
> para when you do this.
> 
> I'm quite against step3 if we were to automatically merge two lists  
> one after another. We could have a join shortcut/icon for joining  
> lists (although hitting suppr when placed at the end of item1 should  
> do the same).

I agree: http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3488

Thanks,
Marius

> 
> Thanks
> -Vincent
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Marius
>>
>>> tried that with the outdent button too, same behavior. also tried  
>>> it in the default editor mentioned above, same behavior. but theres  
>>> one difference, if i remove the paragraph (line break) what ever in  
>>> XWiki i get
>>>
>>> - item1item2
>>>
>>> In the mentioned editor i get
>>>
>>> - item1
>>> - item2
>>>
>>> hel.
>>>
>>> -----
>>> hel.
>>> h...@hel.at
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