Hi!

Mark D. Anderson wrote:
> hi -
>
> I'm one of the stranded former users of the free hosted service wik.is
> which mindtouch precipitously cancelled, forcing all users to either go
> to one of their paid plans (which don't match my usage), or leave.
>
> I'm going to host it myself this time, and have been looking through
> the alternatives. I'm attracted to xwiki for several reasons:
> full ACL support; ldap authentication; good open source license without
> a bunch of proprietary features; Balsamiq and Word integrations;
> wysiwyg editing; and strong REST api.
>
> >From my first glance I do still have some reservations:
>
>
> 1. One concern is convenient maintenance of sorted children.
> I see that in xwiki's own documentation wiki, this isn't done:
>    http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/
> is just maintained manually as an index page.
>
> As far as I can tell, by default children are just sorted by creation order.
> With the http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/DocumentTreePlugin
> they can instead be sorted by name.
> Lastly, there is 
> http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/SortedDocumentTreePlugin
> But I really don't understand the instructions for "importing" a class to get
> an additional sortable attribute.
>
> Also I don't know if these plugins support sort order of spaces too, or not.
>
> Ideally, however it is done, when a page is created, the form would have not
> only the page title and parent title, but a place for an optional sort value.
>
>   

Without considering the available code, just to say that any single 
piece of information associated with a document can be used to 
programmatically display any bunch of selected documents in a new one. 
The homepage of a document is a clear field to be used as ID, but any 
identifiable content or object property could be used.

> 2. I'd like to be able to export an entire space as a big PDF.
> I can't tell if this plugin will do that:
> http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/PDFExportPanelApplication
> For example, suppose I wanted the whol xwiki AdminGuide as a single PDF,
> what would I do?
>   

To the best of my knowledge, this is not possible with the available 
plugins or applications. You can export as PDF a document, but not space 
or any other "artefact" you could create as a multi-chapter document 
metaphor. This nice application eases the use of some features related 
with document export.

I would keep track of the development of nested spaces features and some 
other initiatives to add new hierarchy to XWiki documents. Also, an 
understanding of the new rendering architecture will be required to get 
something working on this field...

http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Modules/RenderingModule

>
> 3. I'd like a real bare bones look -- even slimmer than Confluence or 
> MediaWiki,
> and both of those are a little less cluttered than the Toucan skin.
> I'm not finding any example skins that are like that.
>   

This is really easy. Check this thread...

http://markmail.org/thread/n5i7mammmo63dcz6

As Vincent said, check some samples here...

http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Screenshots

>
> 4. I like the idea of supporting office app clients. 
> But it seems there is some clumsiness with XOffice specifying a parent:
>    http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XOFFICE-243
> And I can't find any documentation on editing/creating content from OpenOffice
> and/or via any webdav client. Things like URL conventions, etc.
> This page http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/Architecture
> mentions XOO (Xwiki OpenOffice) but there is nothing else about it:
>   http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Search?text=XOO&wikinames=&space=
>
>
> 5. I might be blind but I can't find any documentation for the blogging 
> support.
>   

http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Applications/BlogApplication
>
> 6. The page http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Plugins/
> says "Components" are preferred over plugins but the link to "Components" 
> goes nowhere.
>   

http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Modules/ComponentModule
> In general the documentation wiki is pretty confusing. The Enterprise docs 
> link to basically
> all the same places as the platform docs. There seems to be a mixture of 
> information that is
> years out of date and information about ideas not yet implemented. Sadly it 
> is an example
> of the dangers of using a wiki :(.
>
> -mda
>   

Well, I could agree with you and I can also feel the same danger of 
using a wiki you are speaking about. The point is that XWiki is a 
collaborative initiative. Developers are mostly devoted to develop (sic) 
new great features and it could be truth that the documentation is a bit 
messy. But I'm sure, better I can confirm, that any initiative/idea will 
be welcome and carefully considered for the community. Mainly, for the 
developers themselves. Please, browse through users lists and Jira 
repository to check how many times several aspects related with 
documentation have been discussed. Even some proposals about ideas like 
"bug fixing day" or "documentation day" (sorry, I don't remember if they 
were called exactly that way!)

XWiki is a great framework requiring men/women work force to improve 
some aspects. Documentation is one of them!
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HTH!

Ricardo

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Ricardo Rodríguez
CTO
eBioTIC.
Life Sciences, Data Modeling and Information Management Systems

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