Vincent and Wouter -- thanks for the great responses. I'll try to take your advice and tweak just a space for normal users.
One thing I've identified that would be nice, but I don't know how to do... I'd like the Document Metadata panel that is below the content panel to _not_ appear, unless someone selects Comments, Annotations, Attachments, History, Information in the top right corner of the content panel. I think this must be possible, the reason, why else would there be two ways to navigate to it -- top right of content _and_ tabs on meta panel. (I'm aware of turning off each Doc Metadata tab from the Page Elements... but I don't want them off, just not expanded out.) ^ That would simplify the look quite a bit. I've started some notes so I can reproduce what I'm doing at some point: (scripting myself) Create a new group "Wiki Users" Create some users as Wiki Users Login as them to see what a non-admin sees Probably have 2 different browsers to keep flipping back and forth Create a new Space, one which will be the normal user's default Keep default skin so you don't stray from supported world Go to Administer Wiki -> Look & Feel Presentation you can change the color of the default skin Page Elements -> turn off left panel, turn on right panel, etc Panel Wizard -> choose what you want in the right panel There are more things I'd like to do: Backlinks has redundant pages something like " | sort | uniq" is needed. A bug? Add Search in right panel and remove X-WIKI header of page. Header must be somewhere in the skin? Thanks guys -- I hope to help out with the "minimal config" page. ----- "Vincent Massol" <vinc...@massol.net> wrote: > Hi Guillaume, > > On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Guillaume Fenollar wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Finally, I think it would be great to have some available .xar > packages to > > download, not only one. It would give us the choice to build xwiki > according > > to the features we're looking for. > > What you're talking about is the Exension Manager ;) > > … which already exists and which you can try in XE 3.2 (it's missing a > nice UI but the features are there). We need the max # of people to > try it out and report issue if any. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > > > Regards > > > > Guillaume > > > > 2011/9/8 Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > > > >> Hi Wouter, > >> > >> On Sep 8, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Vincent, > >>> > >>> Sounds like a good plan to me, since it will make Xwiki more easy > to use > >> for > >>> content managers with no coding background, it will lower the > treshold > >> for > >>> people wanting to use xwiki. > >>> > >>> Xwiki is great, no question, but it offers so many possibilities > that for > >>> people like me who focus primarily on content management and > usability > >> and > >>> are by no means PHP and JAVA geniuses, it tends to get a bit > complicated. > >>> > >>> IMO approach 2) is to be preferred because of the same reason you > stated > >>> allready. > >>> Maybe we can collect ideas on stripping down over the userlist, > sort > >> them, > >>> and use them to create the guide? > >> > >> yep that's the idea. > >> > >>> Is there a standard layout for guides like this allready? > >> > >> No but the guide could be put in the Admi Guide ultimately: > >> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/ > >> > >> Now the practice is to start writing this stripping down guide in > the draft > >> section and as soon as it contains something we judge nice enough > to move it > >> to the final location (AdminGuide): > >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/ > >> > >>> Because then we would create it accordingly. > >> > >> Great. Feel free to create a page in the Draft space: > >> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/ > >> > >> Thanks > >> -Vincent > >> > >>> Thanks for the thoughts, > >>> > >>> Wouter > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Vincent Massol > <vinc...@massol.net> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi guys, > >>>> > >>>> It would be nice to have a guide on xwiki.org about this topic > of > >>>> stripping the default XE. > >>>> > >>>> Basically you have 2 approaches: > >>>> 1) Don't import the default XE XAR (ie you start with an empty > wiki, no > >>>> pages) > >>>> 2) Start with the default XE XAR and make modifications to it > >>>> > >>>> Choosing 1) or 2) really depends if 2) is close to what you need > or not. > >>>> Choosing 2) is the easiest though since it's easier to remove > things > >> than > >>>> to create new stuff from nothing :) > >>>> > >>>> If you can tell us what you don't want, we could maybe tell you > how to > >> turn > >>>> them off/make them disappear. > >>>> > >>>> Once we figure out together how to remove stuff, would be great > if you > >> guys > >>>> could start a guide on xwiki.org about how to remove stuff and > stip > >> down > >>>> xwiki! > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> -Vincent > >>>> > >>>> On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Wouter de Vos wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Scott, > >>>>> I am not aware of a "Strip down Guide" but I had the same issue > here. > >>>>> > >>>>> What I did is just simply build op a space for the endusers, in > which I > >>>>> created 3 Custom Panels for navigation purposes, nothing more. > >>>>> This you can easily do when you go to the space preferences and > look at > >>>> the > >>>>> panel wizard. > >>>>> Here you can edit panels and place them accordingly in your > layout. > >>>>> You should be aware of the fact that the users go to the main > wiki > >>>>> (non-enduser in your case) by clicking the logo, you might want > to > >> change > >>>>> this, the same goes for the displayed search results. > >>>>> You can also predefine if endusers should see the Comment box at > the > >>>> bottom > >>>>> of the page or not, etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> IMO the great thing of Xwiki is exactly this, you are in total > control > >> of > >>>>> what the endusers can see and are allowed to do. > >>>>> > >>>>> I hope this helps a bit, if you have more questions please feel > free to > >>>> let > >>>>> me know. > >>>>> > >>>>> Kind regards and good luck, > >>>>> > >>>>> Wouter > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Scott Serr > <se...@theserrs.net> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'd like some guidance on heading towards a very minimal xwiki > >>>>>> configuration, at least for end users. The default xwiki UI is > pretty > >>>>>> complex. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'd like users to see this: > >>>>>> content (edit, print) > >>>>>> search box > >>>>>> minimal side bar > >>>>>> backlinks > >>>>>> (and not much more) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is there a guide on how to strip down what a normal user sees > to the > >>>> bare > >>>>>> essentials? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Scott > >> _______________________________________________ > >> users mailing list > >> users@xwiki.org > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Guillaume Fenollar > > XWiki SysAdmin > > Tel : 01.83.62.65.97 > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list > > users@xwiki.org > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
