On Nov 24, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Nov 24, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Roman, >>>> >>>> On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Roman Muntyanu wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sergiu, >>>>> >>>>> Those are fine improvements, I'm curious though. >>>>> * Will the extension manager pick-up/show the extensions I have >>>>> already installed? >>>> >>>> It depends… :) >>>> >>>> The EM will pick up all jars put in WEB-INF/lib or in the classpath in >>>> general. >>>> >>>> However if you've installed pages from a XAR by importing it then no it >>>> won't notice it (AFAIU - Thomas should confirm this). >>>> >>>> It's a good point though, we might want to do something to handle this use >>>> case. >>> >>> It's not that easy, there is no way to know that a wiki page is coming >>> from some application without talking of what is the id/version of >>> this application if it hasn't been installed by Extension Manager. >> >> I can think of 2 solutions (haven't thought much about it though): >> * Based on a hash of the page which will work if the page(s) haven't been >> modified > > And how is this hash will help you identify the extension ?
If an app is made of say 5 pages for ex, you compute a single hash from those pages and this hash identifies the version. Of course we would need to compute hashes for well-known application/versions, store them on xwiki.org somewhere and have the EM read them from there. But it wouldn't work if pages have been modified which is why the second solution below is better IMO **if** we want to support the transition. >> * Based on an Application Descriptor that the user would install and that >> lists all the pages making up the application and by modifying the EM to >> support reading from these descriptors to find installed apps > > So not with existing applications which was the question. We could tell people to create such descriptors for their applications if they're not recognized in the EM UI (as a transitional and migration solution) or we could provide these descriptors in updated versions of these apps, or both. All this said, I don't think we need to support any of this: * the user knows what apps he has installed on his wiki * thus in the EM UI he can pick a version greater than the one he has installed locally and install it over the existing pages. A new revision of the pages will be created. The only issue is if the user has modified application pages and the way to solve it is by manually merging the changes after having installed the new version. Thanks -Vincent >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>>>> * Will there be a UI/functionality for removing previously installed >>>>> extension? (Especially in those cases when plugin installation required >>>>> copying and container restart like >>>>> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Excel+Plugin ) >>>> >>>> Yes, this is already possible. The UI should already allow for this too. >>> >>> If it has been installed by Extension Manager. >>> >>>> >>>> Since this is our very first release of an EM UI we would love to have >>>> some feedback, not so much about the UI itself (we're not finished yet >>>> about what we want to achieve, see >>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ExtensionManager). >>>> >>>> Sergiu: do we have support for merge conflicts and handling them in this >>>> first UI? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Roman >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>>> Of Sergiu Dumitriu >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 10:43 AM >>>>> To: XWiki Developers; XWiki Users >>>>> Subject: [xwiki-users] [Announcement] XWiki Enterprise and XWiki >>>>> Enterprise Manager 3.3 Milestone 2 Released >>>>> >>>>> The XWiki development team is proud to announce the availability of XWiki >>>>> Commons, XWiki Rendering, XWiki Platform, XWiki Enterprise and XWiki >>>>> Enterprise Manager 3.3 Milestone 2. The highlights of this release >>>>> are: >>>>> >>>>> * a new user interface for the extension manager >>>>> * new features for the Application Within Minutes aspect >>>>> * a new and improved FAQ application has been committed in the platform, >>>>> although it's not bundled by default in XE >>>>> * support for exporting PDF documents for CJK languages >>>>> * a new rendering transformation that can be used to check the status of >>>>> any link encountered in the wiki >>>>> >>>>> And on the developers' front: >>>>> >>>>> * support for dependency Providers, as defined in JSR330 >>>>> * a Disposable interface for singleton components which can be used to >>>>> release resources when a component is being unregistered >>>>> >>>>> See the full release notes at >>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotesXWikiEnterprise33M2 >>>>> for more details. >>>>> -- >>>>> Sergiu Dumitriu >>>>> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thomas Mortagne >>> _______________________________________________ >>> users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
