On Jan 21, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Kaya Saman wrote:

> <snip>
>>> One more observation that XWiki is primarily presented in European
>>> counties on 2012.01.21 following request
>>> http://www.google.com/trends/?q=XWiki&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
>>> produced
>>> 1.  Algeria 
>>> 2.  France  
>>> 3.  Morocco 
>>> 4.  Czech Republic  
>>> 5.  Switzerland     
>>> 6.  Belgium 
>>> 7.  Romania 
>>> 8.  Singapore       
>>> 9.  Austria 
>>> 10.         India
>>> 
>>> I think it's essential to get other markets to increase the community
>>> (north America comes first to mind, however taking into consideration
>>> number of population - China, India and fast growing Latin America
>>> world that might
>>> depend)
>> Indeed, any recommendation?
>> 
>> BTW this is strange since xwiki.org website is in English and there's no 
>> reason only people from Europe would use it. Maybe Europe countries use more 
>> open source than say in the USA. UK is not in the list either which is 
>> strange too.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> 
> 
> I agree, hit the US and Canadian markets as Xwiki has the potential to become 
> huge out there.
> 
> Actually living in the UK and then taking a 2 year sabbatical to Turkey I 
> would have thought that opensource in the US and Canada were going to be much 
> larger then anywhere in Europe...... since most opensource projects kind of 
> kick-start out there and there is a huge following of Linux/BSD among other 
> things.
> 
> 
> Turkey I can definitely say is a 99.9999% MS based environment with almost 
> everybody using Sharepoint as the - wiki, mainsite, collaboration suite 
> etc.... - actually I went out there as a UNIX engineer and ended up an MS 
> slave as my first position was as a Sharepoint admin. Afterwards when I went 
> to en enterprise grade investment company they even used Sharepoint there 
> even though I tried to politically incline them towards opensource source 
> especially Xwiki but in their own terms: 'there was no support as mailing 
> lists aren't considered support and nobody would understand how to work it'.

This is a very typical misconception. It's not because some software is open 
source that there aren't companies doing support for it. Quite the opposite. 
Whereas with closed software you'll have only 1 company doing support, with 
open source you'll generally find several companies doing support for products… 
;)

You can point them to 
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support#HProfessionalSupport
(this link is available on xwiki.org in the top level horizontal menu under the 
"Support" tab)

> In the UK while job hunting I do express my knowledge in Xwiki to any company 
> I come into contact with and again the response usually is 'We use Sharepoint 
> in this firm'.

Thanks for sharing the xwiki love around you! :) That's great.

> It's just unfortunate that I am not in a senior (or any) position here with a 
> bunch of contacts in the same place as I definitely would try to get Xwiki on 
> the map! I must sincerely appologies for this as I am a huge fan of Xwiki - 
> bar the inability to upgrade versions currently but that's still a work in 
> progress ;-)

hehe… that's still one of the difficult points even though we're trying to 
improve…

> But if there's anything I can do to help the project I will in anyway I can!

Thanks
-Vincent

> Regards,
> 
> 
> Kaya

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