Hi, Andreas, See below,
Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:36:15 +0200 от Thomas Mortagne <[email protected]>: >On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Dmitry, > > > > Thanks for your inputs! See below. > > > > On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Dmitry Bakbardin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hi, Vincent, > >> > >> My 10 coins to the suggested topic :-) > >> > >> 1. New Access Rights management system. There are a lot of weak points >> already known. Probably, it's time to review this. > > > > Have you been able to play with it already? Would be great to provide > feedback and details. I'm sure Denis would love some feedback. > > Andreas too ;) > > Do you actually know there is a new right management system ? It's not > clear in your question if you talk about introducing a new right > management system or using more the new one.I mean situations like http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-2184 and http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6987 Probably I missed something in the roadmap and release notes, but I didn't see it fixed. And these reports were not the only "bugs" found as far as I remember mailing lists conversations. All of them required brand new system and Vincent said, that these changes are planned after comprehensive discussion and voting in futher releases. So, I mean BRAND NEW system that acts as expected, e.g. user with edit rights is in the "god mode" as to the page. I expect edit rights means edit page, but not access rights change. Access rights looks more admin function. And so on. IMHO it worth discussion. > > > > >> 2. Second level XWiki virtualization http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XEM-207 > >> > >> 3. Add WYSIWYG's editor logic while adding the link Space -> Page -> Anchor >> on the page http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-4084 > >> > >> and the same in XEM Environment: Workspace/Virtual Wiki -> Space -> Page -> >> Anchor > >> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-7483 > >> > >> 4. WebDAV access to deleted attachments >> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6989 > > > > So you're using XWiki WebDAV feature ATM? > > > >> 5. Rebuild Translation System and add possibility to translate not only page >> content, but objects' content (and field names) also. > > > > Just on this point, we're planning to work on this in XE 4.3 in the coming > month. > > Except for the object content translation part which has more to do > with the model and is not going to change very soon. Note that fields > names are already translatable, for this you can use the id <class > full name>_<field name> like in "Blog.BlogClass_title" for the title > field name of a blog object. >Looks disaster for me :-) Let's overview simple usecase: - I buld FAQ (or something like it) in English with Application within minutes - I want to make it multilingual. Looks like I'm stuck by default: "not going to change very soon" :-( - I see the only "human-friendly" option to modify default scripting, produce templates for each language, then build pages like <PageName>_<Language> and load required page depending on requested language. I didn't make it like this yet, but if it is "not going to change very soon", I'd consider this way as an option to make application running in multilanguage environment. I understand, that this is not the best solution, but as far as I understand XWiki - it should work. > > > >> 6. Evolve filestorage system from "experimental" to >> all-kind-production-ready and make it more or less comprehensive: > >> - for example, add possibility of XWiki clustering and automatic >> attachments synchronization while FS is on. > >> - to configure path to store attachments for each XWiki/virtual >> wiki/workspace/space separetly. > >> - fix current bugs (like http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6917) and >> probably add some other fatures :-) > > > > Yeah I also think we need Caleb to work a bit on this so that we could call > it production-ready ;) > > > >> 7. Smooth upgrade system (to make it look more like linux upgrades): upgrade >> AND KEEP all XWiki customization with minimal manual config files comparison >> and reediting of customized pages inside XWiki. > > > > Yep, we're working on this one (XAR upgrades). You should see some first > version with XE 4.2 when it's released next week. Next step is to tackle WAR > and config file upgrades indeed. > > Note that for the server side (WAR and configuration) you have the > Debian package (see >http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationViaAPT) > that can help a lot since apt/dpkg is taking care of configuration > file comparison/merging. But that's only for Debian based system of > course. > > For the XAR part as Vincent said we are working on it and you get a > first version of an install/upgrade Wyzard for it in the coming 4.2.Thanks a lot. I was going to set up new server soon. Migration to Debian looks fine for me in this case. :-) Looking forward to 4.2. It would be "admin-rescue" release :-)))) > > > > >> 8. Add Space -> Subspace -> Page logic to XWiki hierarchy to build "trees" >> instead of "horizontal" set of spaces. > >> > >> 9. Extend TOC macro to logic: ...wiki1:Space1.Page1, wiki2:Space2.Page2... >> to include TOCs of separate pages inside current TOC. > >> > >> 10. XWiki Native support for mobile users (Skins, ColorThemes for all kind >> of mobile users bundled with XE/XEM) > > > > Ludovic has a pull request for improving mobile skin support for XE 4.3 but > probably not to the extent you're interesting in at the moment. > > > > Thanks, keep the ideas coming. No promise that they'll be implemented but the > more people who want the same thing the more weight it has. And developers > are reading this! > > -Vincent > > > >> Hope it helps :-) > >> > >> Kind Regards, > >> > >> Dmitry > >> > >> > >> Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:58:04 +0200 от Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >>> Dear XWiki lovers ;), > >>> > >>> > >> We're getting close to the end of the 4.x cycle which is about to be >> finished with XWiki 4.5 around end of January and we need to start >> brainstorming about the 5.x cycle (1 year duration from Feb 2013 to Jan >> 2014). > >>> > >>> > >> * 3.x was about "Building Apps and Distributing them" (priority 1) and >> "Polishing" > >>> > >> * 4.x was about "Ease of use" (priority 1) and "Quality" > >>> > >>> > >> So what would you like to see in the coming year? > >>> > >>> > >> You can suggest both general themes and specific items. > >>> > >>> > >> Thanks > >>> > >> -Vincent > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Dmitry > >> WebDAV access to deleted attachments > > > > _______________________________________________ > > users mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > Thank you for good news and excellent work. 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