Actually, Joe, I argued for the 12:00 at midday to be called 12:00 noon,
with midnight called 12:00 mid.

My subsequent arguments then dealt with the confusing use of am and pm for
those two instants and my long-held position on them on which I agree that
you and I presently disagree. My reference to you, though, was not as to
whether you agreed or disagreed on the logic, but whether you remembered
what the convention was back in the late 1950s (which is when I arrived in
Canada) and whether you had previously confirmed or refuted my recollection
of that particular convention.

However, my final conclusion indicated that it was all moot if we could get
universal use of the 24-hour clock.

You have completely mischaracterized my position on midnight for the 24-hour
clock. I explicitly said that it runs from 00::00:00 to 23:59:59 (with
midnight therefore being 00:00:00). You must have remembered the 24:00 from
an inadvertent slip I made several months ago, when we last discussed this
topic.

Bill Potts, CMS
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Joseph B. Reid
> Sent: July 27, 2001 07:07
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:14655] Re: Metric Marketing
>
>
> Bill Potts in USMA 14642 argued that 12;00 pm is midnight and 12:00 am is
> noon.  I completely disagree.
>
> In conventional 12-hour style
>         my day                          Bill's day
>         12:00   am                      12:00   pm yesterday
>         12:01   am                      12:01   am
>         .....                           .....
>         .....                           .....
>         11:59   am                      11;59   am
>         12;00   pm                      12:00   am
>         12:01   pm                      12:01   pm
>         .....                           .....
>         11;59   pm                      11:59   pm
>         12:00   am tomorrow             12:00   pm
>         12:01   am                      12:01   am tomorrow
> Note that Bill' midnight hour 12 contains one minute (or one
> second) pm and
> 59 minutes (or 59 min 59 s), and his noonday hour 12 contains 1
> min (or 1s)
> am and 59 min (or 59 min 59 s) pm.
>
> In 24-hour notation
>         my style                        Bill's style?
>         23:59                           23:59
>         00:00                           24:00
>         00:01                           00:01
>         00:02                           00:02
>
> Joseph B. Reid
> 17 Glebe Road West
> Toronto    M5P 1C8                       Tel. 416 486-6071
>

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