>From: "Joseph B. Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> John Kilopascal wrote in USMA 15094:
>>
>> >Another thing to ask is if they will accept changing the value of
>imperial
>> >units to match those of metric.  If they try to fall back on heritage,
>ask
>> >them "what heritage?", as the values of imperial units have changed
>> >throughout history every so often, so what is wrong with one more change?
>> >It seems changing the values of imperial units is part of imperials
>heritage
>> >and it would be keeping with that heritage to change the values again.
>> >
>> >The advantages would out-weigh the disadvantages:  1.) The pound could be
>> >set equal to 500 g, thus making it equal to the livre and pfund.  2.) It
>> >would make comparison shopping easier for those who think in imperial and
>> >products are in SI. 3.) Confusion resulting from similar names, but
>> >different values, such as: mile, nautical mile; US pint/quart/gallon and
>UK
>> >pint/quart/gallon; short ton, long ton, tonne, metric ton - all close in
>> >value but not the same, etc.  4.) It is common practice to interchange
>the
>> >unit names yard and metre, especially in the press, if the yard is set
>equal
>> >to the metre then either term will mean the same thing. 5.) And more...

I replied:
>> That is a disastrous suggestion.  One would have to say "old pounds" or
>> "new pounds", otherwise there would be dangerous confusion.  I don't know
>> how European countries managed to convert the livre or Pfund to 500 grams,
>> but I would not want to wish this confusion on the American or Canadian
>> public.

Kiopascal replied:
>I don't see how it would be disastrous.  A person who uses imperial would
>ask for a pound and get 500 g.  I doubt they would notice the difference.
>The scales, however would be in kilograms and the merchant would weighs out
>500 g when a pound is asked for instead of fiddling with 454 g conversion
>factors.  I'm sure most guess anyway.
>
>This would require a change to kilogram scales in the US, which should just
>require a flip of a switch (internally) on digital scales.  But, in Canada
>and Britain, where the scales are already or predominately in kilograms the
>switch would go un-noticed.
>
>When I was in Calgary a few moths ago, the deli counter was all in 100 g
>(hectogram) units at the stores I visited.  Nothing was priced per pound.
>The only thing I saw priced per pound, were produce sold in bulk.  Like
>bunches of carrots or heads of lettuce.  Items that were already a fixed
>size by nature, but were priced in pounds in large text and kilograms in
>small text.  You could not ask for a given number of pounds, just take what
>was there.
>
>But, where you would ask, everything was priced in "hectograms" with no
>imperial conversions.
>
>However, well over 90 % of pre-packaged goods were labeled in metric only,
>even if about half the products were soft conversions of US sizes.


All prepacked food in Canada must have its quantity expressed in metric units.

I have no objection to the retailer weighing out 500 g for a customer who
asks for a pound.  However, the merchant is unlikely to advertise the price
per 500 g as the price per pound.  500 g should have no acknowledgement in
writing or print as a pound.

Joseph B. Reid
17 Glebe Road West
Toronto    M5P 1C8                       Tel. 416 486-6071

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