Wizard,

Yes, F = ma can be used in Imperial. But using it is a personal choice. And
some branches of science have used ifp far into the last century.

>From Rowland's Dictionary of units under the letter P.
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/index.html


British Gravitational has this unit of force (comparable with the kgf):

pound force (lbf or lb)

a traditional unit of force. Traditional measuring systems did not
distinguish between force and mass units. A force of one pound is simply the
gravitational force experienced at the Earth's surface by a mass of one
pound. To compute this force, we multiply the mass by the acceleration of
gravity, following Newton's law F = ma. Since one pound of mass is 0.453 592
kilograms and the acceleration of gravity averages 9.806 65 meters per
second per second at the surface of the Earth, one pound force equals the
product of these two numbers, 4.448 221 615 newtons. The symbol lbf should
be used for the pound force to distinguish it from the pound of mass

British Absolute. It has a pure unit of force, just as SI has the newton. It
is used far less than the lbf.

poundal (pdl or pl)

an English unit of force used in engineering. Since traditional measuring
systems, including the English system, did not distinguish between force and
mass units, the poundal was defined to provide a unit clearly measuring
force rather than mass. One poundal is the force which accelerates a mass of
one pound at the rate of one foot per second. Since the acceleration of
gravity averages about 32.174 ft/sec2 at the Earth's surface, one poundal is
about 1/32.174 = 0.031 081 pound of force. One poundal is also equal to
approximately 0.138 26 newton, or 13 826 dynes. The newton, the SI unit, is
now the preferred unit of force in engineering and technical work. The
poundal was invented in the 1870s by the British mathematician James
Thomson, who also named the radian.



It seems that the science of thermodynamics has used a lot of  Imperial/USC
until late into he last century.
Mesures et Controles Industriel, 1958-05, p. 351. This French technical
magazine waged a courageous campaign against the infiltration of ifp in
France for decades. The contagion which shows too well on a website like the
Maporama one and in Jacques Cousteau's films, has been present for decades,
even boosted for some time since 1944/45. And so is the struggle against it.

"La situation est beaucoup plus grave...

Cette ann�e (1958), � l'Universit� de Lille, un cours de transfert de la
chaleur est profess�e dans la section 'G�nie Chimique' en utilisant
exclusivement les unit�s anglo-saxonnes (livres, pieds, etc) et employant
les notations anglo-saxonnes (en particulier le point entre les unit�s et la
decimale, et la virgule entre les milliers et les centaines). La m�me
personne professe un cours de thermodynamique � la Facult� Libre de Lille en
utilisant les m�mes unit�s et les m�mes notations".

"The situation is much more serious....

This year (1958) a course in heat tranfer is being taught at the section
'G�nie chimique' at Lille University, using exclusivily Imperial/US
measuring
units (feet, pounds, etc.) and using the UK/US notation of numbers (the
point as decimal sign, the comma as separator between thousands or
hundreds). The same person is also teaching a course in thermodynamics using
the same units and the same notations at the Free Faculty at Lille
University".


If ifp could not be used in science and high technology at all it would have
collapsed in the 19th century. See also the last sentences of USMA 16859.
There would be no USMA and no USMA list server. And before metric
came, science used inches, feet and pounds in all their local varieties.

Last but not least, I found this on one of the UKIP forum: Compulsory
Metrication.
http://www.ukip.org
A lot of people on their forums claim to be young, or/and claim to have a
scientific
background, while being anti-European and anti-metric!

Philip Moore ( - 131.111.237.176) on Sunday, May 14, 2000 - 01:30 pm:
As a 20 year old science student at Cambridge University I have been exposed
to "metrication culture" all my life. We are not taught Imperial Measures
anymore, and this is a crying shame. I for one taught myself Imperial
measures
and used them to pass my Physics A-Level!
The Imperial System is more practical because its units were developed from
use, rather than by Committee. It requires greater numeracy than Metric, but
this is a skill to be encouraged! It is part of our culture and history and
should not be replaced by a soulless alternative.
I don't suggest we outlaw Metric - that would make me as bad as the EU - but
let those of us who want to do so use Imperial!

Han


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wizard of OS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:30 PM
Subject: [USMA:16897] Does science work with imperial at all??

I am wondering how physical, math. or chemical calculations are possible
without SI?

personally, I cant imagine, e.g.  F = m a seems impossible with imperial!


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