Hear, hear, Adrian! But... Welcome to the club, pal... :-S I've been trying to stir things here for quite some time now without much success, so... I sort of... gave up... It seems like either the inertia is huge, or this has just been a lip service to metrication by nearly all. What can I say?... Until most continue to think that progress is being done and hence kidding themselves about it, the status quo will NEVER change! We need leadership in the US, but a *meaningful* one. Otherwise...
Who knows you'll have more success at that, though. Good luck (I really mean it!). Marcus On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:37:51 Adrian Jadic wrote: >What you are telling us is regrettable and I think it is high time that we revise our >attitude towards our postings on the list. I have to confess that I also hate it when >people go WAY off track, or when I receive tenths of messages containing just a short >dialog. I think that a posting should be regarded with the same respect, as it would >be published in a newsletter. > >On the other hand let me take this opportunity to criticize the USMA officers. I have >not once seen officers starting debates based on the leadership's schedule or >program. Or about the association's goals for periods to come. > >I would (and I think others would as well) very much like to be able to participate >in the activities of those who represent us. For example if our Presidents agenda >for the next month or quarter includes such and such activities I think it would be >appropriate to discuss the priorities of the schedule as well as to debate on the >things to be done in each activity. I am sure that many of us would come with good >ideas and if the President uses only one good idea that was generated from the list >it is still more than what we have today. > >I have been an USMA member for the past 2 years and although I have subscribed to the >list without interruptions, I have learned about the Presidents activities only from >reading MT, way after the activity happened and the decisions were taken. >I dont perceive this as a democracy! > >I am sure that if our leaders would take more time to actually lead the discussion on >the list toward the more concrete aspects of their activities as USMA >representatives, then the discussion would be more focused and interesting. I am sure >that if this was the case, then the people you mention would have found on our list >what they wanted which is: >Whats being DONE today to move the US toward metrication!!! >... And possibly, would have not left anymore. > >Unfortunately, I have the feeling that everything happens behind the scenes which is >not the way it should be. There is no wonder that the direct result is, that in the >absence of leadership in our discussion all we talk about is personal experiences, >feelings, what happens in Europe and sometimes we nitpick on the SI or ISO. >All its missing from this picture is (metric) cooking recipes and we look like old >ladies bitching about the world. > >I hope it is needless to say that this was intended as constructive criticism. > >Adrian > > >======================= >Jim F. wrote: > >I've received an average of one message a month for the last few months >from list members saying that they were unsubscribing. I suppose then >that others may have done so without letting me know this. Since it's >not my list, there is no reason why they should tell me they are >checking out, of course, but I sense that they expect me to feed this >back to the list. > >The most commonly stated reason for this exodus is the the volume of >traffic not pertaining to metrication. Seems to me that I've seen more >reports here lately on the value of the euro against the dollar and on >other non-metric topics than I have on efforts made to change the minds >of those in corporations, journalistic publications, or government in >favor of metrication or messages on understanding the SI. That's >probably what those departing the list are referring to. > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > >1 cent a minute calls anywhere in the U.S.! > >http://www.getpennytalk.com/cgi-bin/adforward.cgi?p_key=RG9853KJ&url=http://www.getpennytalk.com > > Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com
