2002-03-21

The W in German is pronounced like the English V.

John


----- Original Message -----
From: "M R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 2002-03-21 10:54
Subject: [USMA:18956] Fwd: RE: Fwd:Short unit names


> Hi Bill
>
> You got to consider this fact.  Some people have the
> habit of reading exactly what is written.  So when
>  1. All the vehicles show km/h in their speedometer,
>  2. When all magazine/newspaper articles carry km/h to
> indicate top speed,
>  people tend to say kay-yem-pee-hech.
>
> Only in TV ads, they say kilometers per hour, but
> again
> they display top speed in km/h and fuel consumption
>  in km/l.
>
> I can understand your concern that 1 day, people may
> start writing what they say like 'kayempeeyel' in 1
> word. But I don?t think that will happen as long as
> our writing is in km/l.
>
> Ofcourse there is another problem of different sounds
> in other languages for Latin letters and this may
> lead people speaking different languages to pronounce
> the letters differently.
>
> For ex
> John is pronounced John in English, but
> Javier is Hahvier in Spanish and
> Jeurgen is Yoorgen in German.
>
> So any SI unit using 'J' may be wrongly pronounced in
> other languages.
>
> 1 more question ?  does other European languages use
> the letter 'W' and if so, how do they say kWh.
>
> By the way Bill - your SI is as pure as 24 karat gold.
> Keep it up.  I will try to follow it & also tell my
> friends/relatives.
>
> Madan
>
>
>
> --- Bill Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [USMA:18953] RE: Fwd: RE: Fwd: RE: Short
> > unit names
> > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:22:37 -0800
> > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > My own view is that, when we speak, we should speak
> > clearly.
> >
> > Saying "kilometers per liter" involves only three
> > extra syllables, relative
> > to "kay em pee ell." The extra time taken to say it
> > is a fairly small
> > fraction of a second -- and there is no doubt as to
> > what is meant.
> >
> > Bill Potts, CMS
> > Roseville, CA
> > http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of M R
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 15:27
> > To: U.S. Metric Association
> > Subject: [USMA:18945] Fwd: RE: Fwd: RE: Short unit
> > names
> >
> >
> > Hi Bill
> >
> > When we write, we write it as km/l, but when we
> > speak
> > we cannot say 'k','m','slash','l', but only
> > 'k','m','p','l'.
> >
> > Please correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> > I think we have a slight communication gap or I am
> > not
> > communicating properly.
> >
> > Indeed, I am committed to SI.
> >
> > Madan
> >
> > --- Bill Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: [USMA:18938] RE: Fwd: RE: Short unit
> > names
> > > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:46:15 -0800
> > > Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Marcus:
> > >
> > > What is wrong is that this list server is for
> > > proponents of SI. Madan is, as
> > > far as I know, a proponent of SI.
> > >
> > > kmpl is not SI. What's the use of having a
> > > universal, language-independent
> > > symbol for "per" if those of us who support it are
> > > not going to use it?
> > >
> > > Abbreviations such as mpg and hp fall outside the
> > > scope of SI, so they're
> > > not really relevant to the discussion.
> > >
> > > Bill Potts, CMS
> > > Roseville, CA
> > > http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > > Behalf Of M R
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 12:49
> > > To: U.S. Metric Association
> > > Subject: [USMA:18937] RE: Fwd: RE: Short unit
> > names
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bill
> > >
> > > In 'kmpl', 2 symbols 'km' and 'l' are universal
> > > symbols of SI and only the letter 'p'
> > (substituting
> > > '/') is not universal.  So what is wrong in saying
> > > kmpl.
> > >
> > > I believe lot of people in USA also say mpg, hp,
> > etc
> > > instead of full wording.
> > >
> > > There are lot of symbols/abbreviations/shortened
> > > words
> > > used commonly in our daily life like
> > > UK - United Kingdom
> > > Gas - Gasolene
> > > LPG - Liqiuefied Petroleum Gas
> > > TV - Television,
> > > etc
> > >
> > > Madan
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Bill Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Madan wrote:
> > > > "In India, they use kmpl (written as km/l) and
> > > kmph
> > > > (written as km/h) for mileage and speed and
> > > > similarly
> > > > the mass is quoted in kg.  They dont use
> > > expansions,
> > > > but only abbreviations/symbols. After all people
> > > > prefer shorter terms."
> > > >
> > > > I'm puzzled as to why you say "kmpl (written as
> > > > km/h)" and "kmph (written as
> > > > km/h)."
> > > >
> > > > Why are you, yourself, using "kmpl" and "kmph?"
> > > > These have no meaning
> > > > whatsoever in SI.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Potts, CMS
> > > > Roseville, CA
> > > > http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> > > >
> > >
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