Bill Hooper wrote in USMA 19398:

>I wrote:
>>> Any given number of pounds always has the same number of kilograms of
>>>mass IF
>>> we remain in the same gravitational conditions (e.g. on surface of planet
>>> Earth)
>
>and you replied:
>> Why IF?  The pound is legally defined as a unit of mass.
>
>I wish it were universally agreed that the pound is ALWAYS to be considered
>a mass unit, but I fear that is not so (even if the official definition of
>the size of a pound is in terms of the kilogram).
>
>So long as some people consider the pound to be a measure of weight (pull of
>gravity, roughly) there will be those who insist that conversion of weight
>(in pounds) to metric means convert it to newtons (the SI unit of force).


This discussion reveals a fundamental, but not generally appreciated, split
between physicists and engineers.  Anglo-Saxon engineers use the pound as
their unit of force, and the slug as their unit of mass.  19th century
Anglo-Saxon physicists used the pound as a unit of mass and the poundal as
their unit of force. The law recognizes the pound as a unit of mass and
does not have a unit of force.  A spring balance measures force of gravity,
and hence the engineer's pounds.  A true balance (honest weight, no
springs) compares masses, and hence measures the physicist's pounds.  Bill
explained the engineer's viewpoint.  I replied as a physicist.

Joseph B.Reid
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