2002-04-12

All I know is a cup is 250 mL.  All of the measuring cups in my house are
dual marked with the 250 mL being closer to the top than the FFU equivalent.
If I'm at a friend or family member's house when they are cooking, and I
happen to watch them fill the cup. I notice they always seem to fill it
closer to the 250 mL amount.  Not that they are consciously doing this, but
they are filling it as close to the top as possible without going too high
and having some spill out.

So, if they are filling something with 4 cups, they have actually used a
litre.  Even if the recipe is intending it to be a quart. If the cups we now
buy were true FFU, they would contain less and the cook would most likely
fill it to a true FFU cup.  But, because of the way the cups are made, the
metric fill is what is being used.

John





----- Original Message -----
From: "James Wentworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 2002-04-12 01:52
Subject: [USMA:19420] Re: (no subject)


> You're right on the mark with this, Paul.  When the subject is childbirth,
I
> hear many parents speak of how the mother's cervix was dilated to XX
> centimeters without hesitating or stopping to say, "That's about YY
inches."
> If our physicians recorded our heights and masses in cm and kg, it would
go
> a *VERY* long way toward getting these units accepted in the US.
>
> I went to school during the same period you did, and I can never remember
> how many cups make a quart or how many quarts make a gallon, as I was
taught
> *only* in metric units in school.  --  Jason
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: U.S. Metric Association <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:30 PM
> Subject: [USMA:19419] (no subject)
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> I've been reading the messages from the list server silently for some time
> now.
> If I may I would like to add to the discussion a few observations and a
> proposal in metrication.
>
> Firstly, I'd like to congratulate USMA.  Progress is being made!  Here is
a
> little background of myself in the context of metrication.  I attended
grade
> school and middle school between 1977 and 1985 in Washington State.
During
> that time the metric system was strongly emphasized.  As consequence I
> really have no easy concept of pints (other than beer), quarts, gallons
> (other than what goes into my car) or ounces and pounds (other than my own
> weight).  I must look these up to be able to understand how many pints in
to
> quarts or pints into gallons.  Actually I find it so much easier, when
faced
> with a quantity written in quarts to simply convert to liters and then I
get
> an instant mental picture of how much volume that is.
>
> I would be confident to say the same holds true for the majority of my
> classmates from that time period coming from Washington State public
school
> system.
>
> I write this to demonstrate that progress is strong at an individual level
> and based on the efforts of USMA in the area of children's education.
>
> As I would observe, the difficulty in U.S. metrication is at the social
> contact level. Please pardon me if my statement is too painfully obvious,
I
> will get to the point.  As individuals, everyone knows kilograms,
> centimeters, liters etc.  By now the vast majority of the US workforce has
> been amply educated in this area.  The trouble is we don't talk to each
> other in these terms.  Neither do we think of ourselves in these terms.
> Around the world people think of their weight as such and such kg or their
> height so many centimeters.
>
> I would like to put forth that a strong effort be placed upon the medical
> profession and the manufacturers of daily medical forms to metricate.
> Reporting to people at their checkup that they weigh so many kilos and
their
> height is so many centimeters would subtly yet have instant impact to
daily
> lives.  The way that we talk to each other would change.  At first people
> would try to convert to their comfortable pound and feet/inches but with
the
> majority of people receiving the same type of information from their
> physicians, it would simply be easier to refer to the kilos and
centimeters
> without breaking out the calculators for converting.
>
> I believe that the medical profession is much more receptive to
metrication
> as compared to the state transportation departments.
>
> Appreciate your comments and if this direction forward were considered as
> appropriate I would very much appreciate guidance how to become directly
> involved in the metrication effort and how to actively promote this
> direction.
>
> Best Regards
> Paul R. Seitz
>
>
>
>
>
>
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