2002-05-03 Marcus,
My point of 10 g (mL), or 100 g was just an idea, not to be written in stone. The increments would have to be agreed upon. It was meant to say: "Ok, if we have to compromise, then let us have partial rationalisation. Let's not be extremely rigid, but allow some flexibility. But only enough to prevent anyone from trying to sneak in hidden FFU, such as 341 mL, 227 g, etc. And the Robot from Lost in Space (not Lost in Spice) never said: "danger, danger, danger' in the air!!! ". It said: "Danger, Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!" John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, 2002-04-29 15:21 Subject: [USMA:19790] Re: Metric Standards and the USMA > Wow... I was simply overwhelmed by the amount of traffic from USMA this weekend. I woke up to over 105 messages today! :-S > > On the other hand, I'm glad people are debating this issue below. So, I'd like to add my 2-c worth... :-) > > On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:25:39 > metric wrote: > ... > > Since German > >national law was declared to be restrictive within the terms of the > >single market, it effectively ended the validity of national regulation > >for all member states. > > > >Thus UK regulations forbidding the sale of honey in 500g jars could be > >challenged by any member state that does allow it (as I understand it). > > > >On the basis of what little I know, I would vote to eliminate the > >regulation of package size. I would even tolerate a short term increase > >in non-rational metric sizes because I am sure that rational metric will > >prevail in the long term. This is, of course, an area where the US has > >an interest and can express a view. > > > I'm sorry to say, but I have to side with Han, Louis and others here in **VEHEMENTLY** opposing any elimination in regulation of package sizes' that would allow for things like 341 mL, 227 g, etc, etc to proliferate in Europe. A strong, resounding NO to that! Your 'I am sure that rational metric will prevail in the long term' is absolute hogwash (sorry to say it in such strong terms)! If in Canada such hideous sizes haven't disappeared, but rather influenced others (like Soy Good) to join in, there is absolutely NO guarantee WHATSOEVER that this (metric will prevail) would take place. > > But you're evidently correct in stating that the US would 'have an interest' and that it would 'express a view' on the subject. But we also know what that view would be, don't we? The likes of TABD have made that crystal clear! > > I sense, like the robot of Lost in Spice, 'danger, danger, danger' in the air!!! To me this is perverse covert operation in the backstage to finally allow the introduction of what could be the demise of SI in Europe! If these goons at TABD can't prevent 80/181 to become law, let's curtail package size requirement legislation! Very clever indeed! But they won't fool me and others in this forum!!! > > Therefore, I urge you, our European friends, Han, Louis, Leonardo and others to stand on guard and start lobbying those organizations/individuals who are orchestrating this to remind them that you would NOT put up with this blatant assault on rational metric package size requirements. At the most you should show support for a very limited flexibility in package sizes. And I wouldn't go as far as a recent proposal shared here of allowing for 10 mL or 10 g increments. That would simply be too lax! Evidently for things like herbs, tea, gelatine, etc, fine, such low increment would be appropriate, but certainly not for things like wheat flour, sugar, coffee and the likes where icrements of 100 would be far more appropriate (for some room for intermediate 50's as in 750, 250, etc)! > > So... I smell a big rat here, folks! > > >However due to the complicated politics of transition, I expect more > >regulation not less. We might see more products being regulated (i.e. > >the concatenation of product lists of 15 member states) but with an > >increased range of sizes. On the bright side for US exporters/importers > >is that there will be only one set of regulations not 15. > >... > Agreed, and I hope these will ALL be rational in metric terms, and will NEVER give room for hideous hidden ifp sizes. > > Marcus > > > Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably > Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. > Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com >
