On Thu, 9 May 2002 23:38:23   
 kilopascal wrote:
...
>It might have been the concept of a United States of Europe that made the
>interpretation of the prophecies to fit modern day Europe.  However, as the
>number of nations joining the Common Market and now the European Union rose
>past ten, there were some growing scepticism as to whether or not the
>prophecies do in fact apply to Europe.
>
>One of those authors was on a religious talk show on cable that I happen to
>come across while surfing the channels sometime last year.  I stopped long
>enough to hear the one speaker attempt to refute the scepticism concerning
>the number of nations in the EU.  He stated quite frankly that if God said
>there will be 10 nations in the end time revival of the Roman Empire, then
>there will be 10.  Somehow, their will be a realignment of nations and
>borders and the result will be a 10 nation confederacy.
>
Hmm...  Interesting that you should mention this.  I'm not entirely sure that the 
interpretation of Daniel to that extent could hold, but I'm certainly a sympathizer of 
this possibility.  I'm just not entirely sure that one could escathologically go that 
far.  Contextually it seems more secure to conclude that the number 10 related to the 
more immediate chain of events surrounding the Fall of the Roman Empire to the 10 
principal "barbarian groups" of the time.  But, it can also be that this could also be 
taken escathologically towards the future.  Perhaps unlikely, but possible, I'd say.

>It sure will be interesting to see if all this does in fact come true.  And
>if the end time Biblical prophecies are in fact true, there is one thing
>certain:  The EU will be the most powerful nation on earth, to which all
>other nations will be subject.  It will have the power and authority to
>boast of its great strength and to make it known that no one will have the
>power or strength to make war with it.  This means the USA as we know it
>will have to be destroyed.
>
If that understanding is correct I don't think I could extend it to mean that Europe 
would be 'the most powerful nation on earth'.  There simply is no text in Daniel 2, or 
8 or 9, that would hint or suggest at that though.  There simply is no talk of a more 
"prominent toe" in those 10.  These are just... "toes"...  (Unless you take the two 
big toes to mean some prominence, and if one goes that far it may make sense to place 
Europe in par with the US, for example, as those potential two big toes!  ;-)   )

>And if it is, guess what will be destroyed with it?  ......Yep!  You guessed
>it: FFU.
>...
You're probably being optimistic about this.  I do believe that FFU will eventually be 
'destroyed', as you put it, but not necessarily as a result of Europe being some most 
'powerful nation', but (hopefully) because multinational corporations may ultimately 
carry the day and succeed in getting this done.

Marcus


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