Marcus: There are TWO aspects. ONE - the Calendar Question and TWO the sub-divisions of the Day-Hours etc. and then their linking to *rotation* of Earth, astronomy and mathematics. I am sure YOU have seen my several attempts on calendars. The paper I thought of scanning and send you shall have to wait since my 8Original *copy* is lying with the luggag my younger son's house and I shall get it next week or so. But, the gist is already with you. In you other mail, you have mentioned of *circle* as a UNIT: but, unit of what? The circle is already considered with 'frequency' or angle as *2 Pi radians*. I am suggesting to link it with the HOUR -ANGLE. This is why, I feel *decimalisation of the HOUR* suits better that the current Bessilian Year, Day or the second used by science and further sub-divided in 100x100 arc-seconds LIKE the 'hour. Thanks. Shall remain in touch. Brij Bhushan Vij
>From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Brij Bhushan Vij" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Calendar Proposals - the Alternatives >Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:48:45 -0700 > >Brij, your proposal is actually so close to mine in essence (at least the >two aspects below, 10 x 100 and 36, 37, 36...) that I'd really encourage >you to consider my alternative over yours for the reasons I've presented to >you earlier. (Note: Now, I REALLY favor 100 x 1000 more for its >simplicity, just two parameters, and the fact that the new second would be >much closer to the current one that people could continue feeling >comfortable around the new one. But I'd be willing to pitch my support to >the 10 x 100 x 100 model IF, and ONLY IF, there is a consensus that it >would be technically *BETTER* than the alternative I proposed). > >Please think of this. Instead of 2 periods of 10 x 100 x 100, please use >*one(1)* of 10 x 100 x 100 (just like it was when the French first proposed >"metric time"). There would indeed be problems or we would continue to >have them if you don't use a pure decimal number of seconds to a day, >please trust me on this! > >And, finally, as for the month thing, please revert that to read 37, 36, >37... as opposed to 36, 37, 36... Why? Because month one is odd and the >number of days should also be odd (37), etc. This would make the system >more acceptable and easier for ordinary people to relate to and use. >Please remember, we need to get the ordinary folks on board on any future >proposal. > >Marcus > >On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:39:02 > Brij Bhushan Vij wrote: > >Hi Marcus: > >My appology for incorrect spellings. I shall try to be accurate. But, I >come > >from India and my understanding of American way of life and not yet > >conversant with pronouncing the words is a hinderance. Sorry, again. > > Yes, I shall try to send you scanned copy of my 'first' technical > >proposition (1971) of 10 x100 minutes to the day OR night and the months > >named after the 'planets in the solar system' with 36, 37,36, 37 and 36 >days > >in each half year.There should be no problem: as to how we choose the > >calendar. > > Difficulty, however, with 1000 or 2000 minutes to the day would be its > >MERGER with 'rotation of Earth and mathematical tables' so often used in > >astronomical calculations.You might do some working and appreciate: where >I > >have explored and 'thought' of holding my horses. > >Brij Bhushan Vij > > > > > >>From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>To: "Brij Bhushan Vij" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Subject: Re: Calendar Proposals - the Alternatives > >>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:08:37 -0700 > >> > >>On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:01:23 > >> Brij Bhushan Vij wrote: > >> >Hi Markus: > >> > >>Hi, Brij, but if you're talking to me, mavifibe, please use Marcus with > >>*c*, ok, as that's how my first name is written? (Besides, there is > >>another Markus, with *k*, in the group, and there could be a mix-up >here) > >> > >> >Thanks. I do not propose to change the 'sabbath cycle'; nor do I >foresee > >> >difficulty in changing the Clock face and merge with ONE degree > >>x100'x100" > >> >arc-angle. You shall find some interest in the other mail. > >> >Brij Bhushan Vij > >> > > >>Well... I certainly had that impression when you came with some >"quinta" > >>and 5-day business somewhere therein. Again, I'm not sure this > >>"rearrangement" would be necessary. Why not go the simpler way of >changing > >>to 10 months of 36/37 days? > >> > >>As for the arc stuff, again, why not just go the simpler 100 x 1000? > >> > >>Marcus > >> > > >> >>From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >>Subject: [USMA:21184] Re: Calendar Proposals - the Alternatives > >> >>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:55:57 -0700 > >> >> > >> >>Brij, I'm sorry, but ANY calendar reform that would upset the 7-day > >>cycle > >> >>would face a **VERY** stiff opposition! It's a *definite* no-no! >And, > >> >>again, I see no benefit at all of NOT going *full decimal* in terms >of > >>the > >> >>time construct. If we are to upset the duration of the second (as >you > >> >>clearly propose) we might as well support a *pure* decimal framework. > A > >>20 > >> >>x 100 x 100, or 24 x 100 x 100, etc would just *not cut it* (sorry, >my > >> >>friend, but I had to be blunt about this). > >> >> > >> >>Marcus > >> >> > >> >>On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:19:42 > >> >> BB VIJ wrote: > >> >> >Hi Markus, Joe, Adrian and All: > >> >> > I am not sure how serious have you been in discarding my >attempts > >>in > >> >>Calendar Reform. But, one thing for sure: I find little enthusiasm >among > >> >>the letters I have viewed so far. However, I am attaching (a file 335 > >>Kb) > >> >>along exctracts out of my published articles and I would wish if >there > >>are > >> >>any serious minds to make United Nations to re-examine the Calendar > >> >>Question. > >> >> >Brij Bhushan Vij mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >2108 Henry Court, MAHWAH, NJ 07430-3805 > >> >> >TeleFax: +1(201)684-0907 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably > >> >>Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. > >> >>Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >_________________________________________________________________ > >> >Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > >> >http://www.hotmail.com > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >>Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably > >>Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. > >>Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > >Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably >Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. >Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
