Yes, Brij, I do realize that. However, the 2*pi stuff is just a no-no, as we both know. Therefore, we're left with basically two options. Either consider the whole circle as a 'unit' (and what I mean by a unit is taken the whole circle measurement and attach it to a unit value, i.e. 1, or 10, 100, 1000, ..., you get the picture...), or use the 'quadrant' (Pat's approach).
There are significant gains to be made, especially in the aviation world, if we stuck with Pat's approach, since 0.01 or the new arc value would be equal to 1 km. Simple, effective and irresistible argument to finally ditch the silly nautical mile and knot stuff. Angles would be from now on quoted as xxx.xx grades, end of story. As for the subdivisions of time, if we can agree on the decimal nature of making one full day a "unit" (which, in this case, 100000 seconds would sound as the most reasonable construct - and perhaps the ONLY one...), then we're all set, Brij! :-) Marcus On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:02:58 Brij Bhushan Vij wrote: >Marcus: >There are TWO aspects. ONE - the Calendar Question and TWO the sub-divisions >of the Day-Hours etc. and then their linking to *rotation* of Earth, >astronomy and mathematics. I am sure YOU have seen my several attempts on >calendars. The paper I thought of scanning and send you shall have to wait >since my 8Original *copy* is lying with the luggag my younger son's house >and I shall get it next week or so. But, the gist is already with you. > In you other mail, you have mentioned of *circle* as a UNIT: but, unit of >what? The circle is already considered with 'frequency' or angle as *2 Pi >radians*. I am suggesting to link it with the HOUR -ANGLE. This is why, I >feel *decimalisation of the HOUR* suits better that the current Bessilian >Year, Day or the second used by science and further sub-divided in 100x100 >arc-seconds LIKE the 'hour. >Thanks. Shall remain in touch. >Brij Bhushan Vij > > >>From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "Brij Bhushan Vij" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: Calendar Proposals - the Alternatives >>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:48:45 -0700 >> >>Brij, your proposal is actually so close to mine in essence (at least the >>two aspects below, 10 x 100 and 36, 37, 36...) that I'd really encourage >>you to consider my alternative over yours for the reasons I've presented to >>you earlier. (Note: Now, I REALLY favor 100 x 1000 more for its >>simplicity, just two parameters, and the fact that the new second would be >>much closer to the current one that people could continue feeling >>comfortable around the new one. But I'd be willing to pitch my support to >>the 10 x 100 x 100 model IF, and ONLY IF, there is a consensus that it >>would be technically *BETTER* than the alternative I proposed). >> >>Please think of this. Instead of 2 periods of 10 x 100 x 100, please use >>*one(1)* of 10 x 100 x 100 (just like it was when the French first proposed >>"metric time"). There would indeed be problems or we would continue to >>have them if you don't use a pure decimal number of seconds to a day, >>please trust me on this! >> >>And, finally, as for the month thing, please revert that to read 37, 36, >>37... as opposed to 36, 37, 36... Why? Because month one is odd and the >>number of days should also be odd (37), etc. This would make the system >>more acceptable and easier for ordinary people to relate to and use. >>Please remember, we need to get the ordinary folks on board on any future >>proposal. >> >>Marcus >> >>On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 18:39:02 >> Brij Bhushan Vij wrote: >> >Hi Marcus: >> >My appology for incorrect spellings. I shall try to be accurate. But, I >>come >> >from India and my understanding of American way of life and not yet >> >conversant with pronouncing the words is a hinderance. Sorry, again. >> > Yes, I shall try to send you scanned copy of my 'first' technical >> >proposition (1971) of 10 x100 minutes to the day OR night and the months >> >named after the 'planets in the solar system' with 36, 37,36, 37 and 36 >>days >> >in each half year.There should be no problem: as to how we choose the >> >calendar. >> > Difficulty, however, with 1000 or 2000 minutes to the day would be its >> >MERGER with 'rotation of Earth and mathematical tables' so often used in >> >astronomical calculations.You might do some working and appreciate: where >>I >> >have explored and 'thought' of holding my horses. >> >Brij Bhushan Vij >> > >> > >> >>From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>To: "Brij Bhushan Vij" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Subject: Re: Calendar Proposals - the Alternatives >> >>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 08:08:37 -0700 >> >> >> >>On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 15:01:23 >> >> Brij Bhushan Vij wrote: >> >> >Hi Markus: >> >> >> >>Hi, Brij, but if you're talking to me, mavifibe, please use Marcus with >> >>*c*, ok, as that's how my first name is written? (Besides, there is >> >>another Markus, with *k*, in the group, and there could be a mix-up >>here) >> >> >> >> >Thanks. I do not propose to change the 'sabbath cycle'; nor do I >>foresee >> >> >difficulty in changing the Clock face and merge with ONE degree >> >>x100'x100" >> >> >arc-angle. You shall find some interest in the other mail. >> >> >Brij Bhushan Vij >> >> > >> >>Well... I certainly had that impression when you came with some >>"quinta" >> >>and 5-day business somewhere therein. Again, I'm not sure this >> >>"rearrangement" would be necessary. Why not go the simpler way of >>changing >> >>to 10 months of 36/37 days? >> >> >> >>As for the arc stuff, again, why not just go the simpler 100 x 1000? >> >> >> >>Marcus >> >> > >> >> >>From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >>Subject: [USMA:21184] Re: Calendar Proposals - the Alternatives >> >> >>Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:55:57 -0700 >> >> >> >> >> >>Brij, I'm sorry, but ANY calendar reform that would upset the 7-day >> >>cycle >> >> >>would face a **VERY** stiff opposition! It's a *definite* no-no! >>And, >> >> >>again, I see no benefit at all of NOT going *full decimal* in terms >>of >> >>the >> >> >>time construct. If we are to upset the duration of the second (as >>you >> >> >>clearly propose) we might as well support a *pure* decimal framework. >> A >> >>20 >> >> >>x 100 x 100, or 24 x 100 x 100, etc would just *not cut it* (sorry, >>my >> >> >>friend, but I had to be blunt about this). >> >> >> >> >> >>Marcus >> >> >> >> >> >>On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:19:42 >> >> >> BB VIJ wrote: >> >> >> >Hi Markus, Joe, Adrian and All: >> >> >> > I am not sure how serious have you been in discarding my >>attempts >> >>in >> >> >>Calendar Reform. But, one thing for sure: I find little enthusiasm >>among >> >> >>the letters I have viewed so far. However, I am attaching (a file 335 >> >>Kb) >> >> >>along exctracts out of my published articles and I would wish if >>there >> >>are >> >> >>any serious minds to make United Nations to re-examine the Calendar >> >> >>Question. >> >> >> >Brij Bhushan Vij mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >2108 Henry Court, MAHWAH, NJ 07430-3805 >> >> >> >TeleFax: +1(201)684-0907 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably >> >> >>Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. >> >> >>Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >> >Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >> >> >http://www.hotmail.com >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably >> >>Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. >> >>Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com >> > >> > >> >> >>Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably >>Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. >>Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. 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