Thanks, Joe, for sharing this very opportune survey.  I just have some few additional 
remarks to make on this subject.

For starters, I find it important for all of us to remember that we should not 
consider the treatment of prefixed units as being "another unit".  Some of us either 
unwillingly or for some other reason, tradition, "culture"... (and I'm not saying this 
is the particular case of anyone who ever participated in this discussion!) appear to 
think that any and all prefixed units constitute *different* units in themselves.

A typical example of this behavior was that Professor here in my own back yard who 
insisted in talking about "conversion factors" (a huge SIC!) between several SI 
prefixed units.  As long as some may have this approach concerning centi or milli we 
may have a loooong way to go before we could settle this.

While in the minds of some there may be "difficulties" related to "navigating" around 
differing prefixes the fact of the matter is their introduction and diversity can be 
adequately addressed if stakeholders involved with this adopted the simple effective 
procedure of treating them as "the third entity" in calculations (the power of 10 
component), as it *always should*, actually!  

I know that this may be hard to ask since it would involve getting people "unused" to 
doing calcs a certain way, but, ultimately, I honestly see no other effective way of 
handling this issue.  It's either this or continue to upset people by polarizing in 
favor of one approach over the other (and in the end, I honestly think NOBODY wins 
really!).  Evidently, it goes without saying that where there is no need to do this 
(when, for instance, all units involved are of the same expected nature) one can 
dispense with this 3rd entity business in practice.

Having said the above I'd like to hereby propose that we alert authorities to this 
simple but effective approach to address this thing for once and for all.  Hopefully 
when it comes to teaching our next generations this would be part of all countries 
educational systems.  I realize that this may be somewhat harder to do than to lobby 
people to stick with one specific prefix.  But I'd like to believe that this idea 
would be welcome because it would "introduce" a procedure for the treatment of 
equations, calcs, etc that not only does work but also mitigates current potential 
operational difficulties involved with camps using diverse prefixes.  

If adopted people will finally no longer lose their sleep over whether camps talking 
are using c or m or whatever else.  Diversity would be respected while with time 
people would have a better chance in a calmer environment to slowly *but safely* 
migrate to more preferred prefixes or something where "standardization" would bring 
clear economies of scale to all involved.  

It's important though for all of us to understand and accept that we will *NEVER* 
achieve complete universality in the use of specific prefixes.  This IMHO is next to 
impossible due to the very diverse nature of different applications.  A striking 
example is nanotechnology versus so-called heavy industries.  One using (and I'm 
afraid always will!) nano, femto, while the other kilo, mega or even higher.

So, in summary, the proposal is for the creation of a permanent 3rd entity (power of 
10) *as an integral part* of the measured value to be incorporated for all 
math-related operations (software, manual calcs, etc).  This can be regarded as a 
precautionary measure as this "new field" may not be used if all entities involved in 
the calcs were of "cancelling" nature (i.e. results would come in expected format).  
In other words depending on the industry this "field" could be entirely ignored, so 
that the apparent "extra" work/cost of introducing this would effectively not be a 
player.

There, I hope all of you will view this humble suggestion as a definitive way of 
dealing with this issue.  Thanks for your time.

Marcus 

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:15:07  
 Joseph B. Reid wrote:
>Marcus, in USMA 21377, wrote a strong rebuttal of USMA 21374 in which I
>presented the South African case for the use of the millimetre in
>engineering and architectural drawings. Albert J. Mettler carried out an
>internatioinal survey of metric practice in 1976. Albert, with a Swiss
>background, farvored the centimetre but reported:
>
>                Countries not using the centimetre
>                    engineers  architects
>Europe
>        Austria 1)      X
>        Czechoslovakia  X
>        Denmark 1)      X         X
>        Germany         X
>        Greece          X
>        Hungary         X
>        Italy           X
>        Luxemburg       X         X
>        Norway 1)       X         X
>        Poland                    X
>        Sweden 1)       X
>        Switzerland     X
>        Yugoslavia      X
>Africa
>        Botswana 2)     X         X
>        Cameroon        x         X
>        Mauritius 2)    X         X
>        South Africa 2) X         X
>        Sudan           X         X
>        Zimbabwe  2)    X         X
>Asia
>        Cyprus          X
>        India           X
>        Iraq            X
>        Philippines     X
>Central America
>        Cuba            X         X
>        El Salvador     X
>
>1) standards institutes with rather puristic approach
>2) recent converts to metric system with limited use of cm.
>
>
>
>Joseph B.Reid
>17 Glebe Road West
>Toronto  M5P 1C8             Tel. 416 486-6071
>
>


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