John wrote 'I'm not really sure where Asia and Africa stand on the issue. '
China and 10 nation ASEAN have already signed upt a Free Trade Agreement that will start by year 2010. China is already the leading consumer of steel, 2-wheelers, TV's, telephones, etc. And this Meanwhile Japan has signed such agreement with Singapore and planned to sign with Korea. Hope they will accept goods with metric only labels. Madan --- kilopascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [USMA:21624] Re: Reciprocal quantities > (was: L/100 km) > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:55:38 -0400 > > 2002-08-10 > > Han, > > I don't think you will have to worry to much about > the EU in 2010. Things > will be a lot different then they are now. The > influence of both the US and > UK will be much weaker as the EU absorbs at least 12 > more countries in the > east. And who knows, maybe even Norway and der > Schweiz too? We are talking > about an additional 200 million people who will by > far outweigh the whining > of both the US and UK combined. > > Excuses from the UK and the US that were heard in > 1999 will not be taken as > seriously in 2009. Also, from an American > perspective, Gene Mechtly in > USMA21556 reposted a message from Kenneth Butcher, > the new head of the NIST > Laws and Metric group. The message stated that > packagers have been > "nagging" him about a change to the FPLA to allow > metric only labelling. If > there are enough voices to drown out the TABD on > this side of the Atlantic, > and we do in fact get that law amended, it removes a > conflict between the > FPLA and the EU directive. Thus any pressure from > the TABD on the EU > becomes moot. > > I don't see the danger of FFU creep on the EU in the > next 8 years, but more > of a wiping out of FFU influences stemming from the > US and UK. The danger > point now becomes the US FFU influence in South > America. The South American > economies heavily tolerate FFU, especially in the > industrial sectors. If > South America becomes the main importer of US goods, > and South America does > not reject those goods being in FFU, then the > pressure on the US to convert > for export reasons will also be a moot issue. > > I'm not really sure where Asia and Africa stand on > the issue. But, the only > thing that will jump start the conversion of the US > will be total world-wide > pressure. Without it, the US will continue to find > areas where it can > export its FFU products. > > > John > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, 2002-08-10 04:19 > Subject: [USMA:21623] Re: Reciprocal quantities > (was: L/100 km) > > > > We may indeed be in serious danger of loosing the > battle if the EU once > > again allows a delay or even worse, cancels the > directive on units, that > is > > what the TABD wants. That will be as awful as the > dark days of 1812 in > > France were. I am sure that metric hearts were > very, very sore in that > year. > > I shudder with the thought that I may experience > another '1812'. > > > > However, I think that infiltration of FFU will > sooner or later lead to a > > reaction which will repel it. In a way, an immune > system will kick in. In > > the fifties and early sixties the inferior SAE > standard of gross hp almost > > overwhelmed the global car industry, as it was > great for marketing > purposes. > > Using this standard also implied the adoption of > the FFU horse power and > > other ifp practices. Even French car builders like > Renault and Simca had > > adopted it. Yet, in some way or other, the > inferior standard bit the dust > in > > the end and had to make way for DIN, SAE net and > now ISO power. > > I remain convinced that we will win in the future. > Trash like ifp cannot > win > > in the end. Only this battle is now in a phase > that does not favour us. I > > cannot see how the EU can accept another > humiliation of this kind. When > the > > craven act had been done, the rapporteur on the > issue, the Tory MEP > > Chichester, spouted anti-European garbage, ranting > and raving about > Brussels > > Bureaucrats (the very category that had already > approved the delay about > 10 > > months earlier!), and he pretended that the delay > was all his work. HE was > > the person who convinced the EU parliament to > grant it. All lies. We know > > that the > > EU Commission had already allowed the delay in > February 1999 and that the > > appointment of the rapporteur in the EP was a > set-up to facilitate this > > decision. > > > > Han > > Historian of Dutch Metrication, Nijmegen, The > Netherlands > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, 2002-07-02 0:15 > > Subject: [USMA:20754] Re: Reciprocal quantities > (was: L/100 km) > > > > > > > 2002-07-01 > > > > > > You just don't understand the American way of > doing things. Let me > > explain: > > > > > > First, you find out what way everyone else is > doing it. > > > > > > Second, just to be different, you do it the > exact opposite. And make a > > big effort to force your way on the world. > > > > > > When the world rejects American methods, America > responds with spite and > > nastiness, insisting the world is full of > anti-American ingrates who hate > > America, who hate freedom and democracy, and want > to force the great > America > > to follow their inferior practices. > > > > > > Americans believe that America became great > because of American methods > > and the world is jealous of American greatness. > Get the point! > > > > > > It is the matter of the US wanting to be > different, so it can brag that > > its difference is the right way and everyone else > is wrong. This is why > the > > metric battle is being lost. > > > > > John > > > > > > There seems to be a tradition in the US > marketing world, to use > > reciprocal units in order to ensure that a higher > number means better. I > > would be curious if you have any reference for > where/when this practice > > originated historically. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
