I'm very happy to read Brian and Ezra's excellent contributions to this ongoing 
debate.  Very well said, both of you!  :-)

Marcus

On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 13:49:55   
 Brian J White wrote:
>>Yea, I'm making a big deal out of what, to most of you, is probably a 
>>technicality. However, it WAS the issue to this guy. It WAS the 
>reason he 
>>refused to give in. Shouldn't we at least try to understand what 
>motivated 
>>the guy?
>
>Oh I understand.  But truthfully it seems like misguided energy. 
>Almost approaching whining.
>
>>And it certainly was NOTHING related to fraud -- he wasn't trying 
>to rip 
>>anyone off!
>
>I don't beleive anyone made that comparison...but if the scales weren't 
>certified, there would be no way to know for sure.  I would never 
>claim the guy was actively trying to rip anyone off, yet the fact 
>is eventually his scales became obsolete.  Plain and simple.
>
>I equate this to car racing for example.  Helmets have safety ratings 
>by Snell.  SA90 helmets conform to the rules of 1990....SA95 to 1995.
>Every 5 years, the helmets conform to differing rules.  Eventually,
>racing sactioning bodies update their rules to reflect the changes 
>in the safety systems being developed.
>
>So if I had an SA85 helmet then I could not participate in an event 
>with this helmet.  Nothing is technically wrong with it, and it's 
>protected my head for the past 15 years but yet it's illegal for 
>use.  One COULD argue  the SA85 helmet's capability to protect your 
>head...but in the end, it's deemed antiquated by safety standards 
>and thus not approved for use.  You wanna race, get a new helmet.
>Plain and simple.
>
>In the end, I see his beef....but it's thin.  
>
>I do understand it's  nothing about fraud, I was just explaining 
>WHY the government has to be involved.  Along the line the government 
>said they would not re-certify non-metric scales.  They gave a conversion 
>date....and ample notice.  I say the government did a good job to 
>not back down.  Wish the United States would do the same.  I say 
>give people enough time to prepare and make any changes...but then 
>stick to your damn promised dates.
>
>>He refused to use a NEW approved scale system. He had a perfectly 
>good one 
>>that the government had approved in the past.
>
>Exactly...his old scale became antiquated by policy. 
>
>>>Simple as that.  Quit trying to read more into it than has already
>>>been read into it...wayyyy too much I say.
>>
>>I know what you are saying here. However, I would suggest that one 
>should 
>>"know thy enemy."
>>
>>The anti-metricationists in the USA are going to parade this guy 
>through 
>>the streets of New York if we ever get mandatory metric laws, and 
>there are 
>>going to be (anti)-Metric Martyrs in the USA.
>>
>>If this is viewed as "oh, it's just because he wouldn't buy a dual-
>label 
>>scale," then you have no idea what motivates people such as this,
>and will 
>>not be able to as effectively counter them. And I think such people 
>will be 
>>MUCH more effective in the USA, due to our national temperament.
>
>I agree with you here....but I think people see through his rallying 
>argument and understand the government's position on approval of 
>the scales.  That's why his case didn't rally more support than he 
>had.
>
>I do agree we should understand what motivates people like the metric 
>martyr...if at the very least to prepare valid, logical arguments 
>to the contrary.
>
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