At 11:41 PM 7, October 2002 -0700, Ma Be wrote:
>Please, John and Jim, allow me to add a new... perspective into this 
>interesting debate, albeit their being sort of already discussed before...

Marcus, as you note, you and I have gone rounds on this several times over 
the years. Usually I manage to harangue people until they give up arguing, 
but in your case I have met my match. I'll let your comments stand without 
repost.

This time, at least....

Regards,
Jim

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