From: James R. Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<<[1]  Using the megagram (and its symbol Mg) instead of the metric ton or
tonne is a *very* bad idea....>>

<Excellent point on the propensity of neophytes to the use of the metric
system to confuse things. Proof in point, my liberal arts college
students sometimes confuse milli and micro and occasionally mega
prefixes.>

I can relate to that.  Last night I had a similar momentary confusion
between microfarads and picofarads while looking through two electronic
parts catalogs for a capacitor (one used uF and the other usef pF).

<Judging from the rate at which the CGPM is willing to make changes
(they favor reluctance over rashness), my personal guess is that it
would take over 10 years to get them to change the name of the kilogram, and
more likely it would be forty of fifty years. I don't want to wait that long
to see the U.S. go metric.>

Me either.  After the new Senate and Congress are seated, I'll ping my
legislators about the much-needed FPLA reform.

<<[3]  Trying to retire the hectare and liter would be very foolish.....>>

<Your points on this are excellent! This is meant to be a useful system,
albeit one with a rigorous theoretical basis. But, rigor aside, it must
be useful to the public.>

Thank you.  I view these units the same way I view the 24 hour clock--not
ideal, but too ingrained and too useful to ditch.

<I disagree here only to the extent that I think the analogs will be felt to
be cm:in, dm:ft, m:yd. The decimeter is too large to be considered the
replacement for the inch, in my view. And my students are more likely to
confuse inches with centimeters than with decimeters when they must use dual
labeled meter sticks or tapes.>

You just made my point for me.  :-)  The decimeter can't be confused with
the inch.  I'm advocating awareness of all three sub-meter units (mm, cm,
and dm).  I've found the dm useful when measuring large things like the side
of a shed, because I can stand well back and easily count them on the tape.
Then I get closer to count the cm and mm.  The dm also seems to be
psychologically more palatable to Americans because the numbers of them are
smaller (12" is about 3 dm rather than about 30 cm).

<True enough! In public, it should be "the metric system" first and
foremost, then *perhaps* and parenthetically "the SI". In legal
documents, the introduction should always define "the metric system" as used
within as meaning "the SI". That's essential for legal and
technical reasons and since darned few Americans read legal documents, it
won't get in their way.>

Yes, I didn't mean we should suppress the name "SI."  Even for materials
aimed at laypeople, it would be perfectly fine to include "SI" in subtitles.

<Thanks for this breath of common sense, Jason! This is one of the most
intelligent posting I've seen here for weeks. Some people get college
degrees and some get an education. Relatively few get both, a wag might
say.>

Heh!  Thank you for the boost.  I was inspired to write the post while I was
reading threads on the sci.space.* USENET newsgroups.  People were arguing
over the best reusable launch vehicle to drastically lower launch costs to
the point where routine manned spaceflight and space tourism would be
practical.  They completely missed the point that this depends solely on the
cost per kilogram of payload to orbit.  The cheapest way to achieve this is
with simple, mass-produced Minimum Cost Design (MCD) expendable rockets
using "boilerplate" tanks and simple pintle-injector rocket engines.
They're not nearly as glamorous as reusable winged spaceships, but they'll
get the job done, as does the current metric system.  --  Jason










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