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2003-01-19
I don't think most Australians are up on conversion
factors and have no idea if the FFU they are forced to display is right or
wrong. Nor do the Americans who see the label. Expect mistakes and
be glad it is the FFU that is in error and not SI.
John
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, 2003-01-19 19:28
Subject: [USMA:24526] RE: Fwd: Re: Dollar
stores
PPS (TM) Shampoo and Conditioner I purchase when
I get my hair cut, is made in Australia and is also
exported.
http://www.ppshairwear.com.au/
There is a contradiction I noted with
their labelling. The Shampoo bottle has '375ml & 12.2 fl oz
e', and the Conditioner bottle has '375ml & 12.6 fl oz
(US) e'. I would presume that if this product is exported
to the US, there may be legal implications, as the Shampoo is clearly
wrong. At least they are getting more and not less. I
would expect to see 12.7fl oz when rounding off to one
decimal place. We are frequently told we
live in a global economy. This sort of confusion is a good reason why
the USA ought to adopt the global system.
(Out of interest, how long has the USA
being decimalising their system? i.e, 3.7 miles, 12.2 fl oz, 2.38"
etc. When when the system was standard here, I was not aware of any
decimalising. I understood fractions would have been used when it
was not a whole number. I don't believe we would ever seen 2
& 3/8" presented as 2.38".)
375 Millilitres
equals 12.6803 Ounces (US, fluid)
Reference:
http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/conversions.html
Brenton Conway
PO Box 10021BC
ADELAIDE SA 5000
Australia
Tel +61 405 448 621
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of John Nichols
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003
08:14
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:24524] Fwd: Re: Dollar
stores
Interestingly enough I had a neutragena hair care product
from the USA with
me in Oz. My step mother had the same product from
Australia in almost the
same size bottle (200 ml) but hers had no FFUS and
the only way I could
tell the difference as everything else was the same
was the Australian one
was slightly lighter in the plastic and in your
hand.
It must drive their marketing people insane
Anyone I
prefered the oz one for obvious reasons
John
(Tahnks for all the
help with the paper conversions)
>From: "Han Maenen"
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>Subject: [USMA:24514] Re: Dollar
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>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:05:56 +0100
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>American units are never legal here,
as in any other EU country, but the
>TABD debacle must be blamed for
American liquid units on products in EU
>shops. The cosmetics products
from all US cosmetics firms are fl oz
>in primary position, metric
supplemental and the %+@%*&+@ OZ LIQ is still
>used by some American
companies like EL and Donna Karan on their labels.
>This trash will only
vanish from our environment when and if the EU makes
>metric only
labelling mandatory from 2010 onwards. I think that on
cosmetics
>products from Estee Lauder sold in the UK you will also
see the US fl. oz,
>the French abbreviation for that unit OZ LIQ,
followed by mL. If this should
>not be the case, if EL labels its
products exported to the UK in metric
>only, what are they up
to?
>
>I have never seen US (or UK) gallons, pecks, pints, quarts
etc. on dual
>labels here, only the US fluid ounce.
>One unit
labels are and remain metric.
>
>English theme pubs in Amsterdam
have an exemption; they may use the Imperial
>pint, unlike Austrian
theme pubs in Britain which are banned from using
>metric
steins.
>Some British tourists will undoubtedly report this to the BWMA,
as proof
>that imperial units are wanted in mainland Europe. In fact,
these pubs use
>the pint to attract British tourists. Many British now
go to Amsterdam to
>stage stag parties and the hospitality industry will
do anything to attract
>them. They are unwanted in Dublin as there were
hooligans among them. If the
>same kind of hooligans turn up here, they
will one day be unwanted in
>Amsterdam as well and with them will go the
pint.
>
>Han
>
>----- Original Message
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>From: "Terry Simpson"
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>To: "U.S. Metric Association"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, 2003-01-19
1:14
>Subject: [USMA:24501] Re: Dollar stores
>
>
>
> >Of Han Maenen
> > >We do have euro shops here. Generally
they have SI only, but on American
>products sold there you may well see
dual units of course.
> >
> > American liquid units are
illegal on product labels in the UK. Thus
>American labels may be legal
in the Netherlands but illegal in the UK. It is
>ironic that UK and US
people use (or did use) non-metric units but make each
>others units
illegal.
> >
> >
> >
John Nichols BE,
Ph.D. (Newcastle), MIE (Aust), Chartered Professional
Engineer
Assistant
Professor
Texas A&M University
Department of Construction
Science
Langford AC
Rm: A414 MD 3137
College Station, TX
77843-3137
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