Nat,

I'm sorry, my friend, but I'll have to disagree with your remark that this is just 
'business', as you put it.

When an organization of the caliber of TABD posts and/or claims to put its support 
behind something **publicly** they're NOT at liberty to backtrack on that!  ONLY if in 
an *official* committee of its members AND at their request can they change their 
minds, so to speak.

To my knowledge neither of the above took place.  Therefore, they have an obligation 
to follow through with their support with their actions (or inactions).

In any case, perhaps the ONLY *EFFECTIVE* safeguard we have is to simply boycott TABD 
members' products in the marketplace.  BTW, I'd appreciate if someone here could post 
a complete list of their members.

I plan to follow-up on this and write to EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM why I, as a 
consumer, will NOT buy ANY of their products (I may make an exception though IF and 
ONLY IF their product is "rational metric"!).

Marcus

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:25:40   
 Nat Hager III wrote:
>Han,
>
>I hate to break the news to you - but that's business!  The trick is to put
>enough safeguards in any agreement, to make SURE the other party follows
>through, assuming he'll try to wiggle out.
>
>I'm sure the EU negotiators know that.
>
>Nat
>
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>Sent: Monday, 03 February 2003 12:02
>To: U.S. Metric Association
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [USMA:24728] Fwd: Re: Re: Forum on MO labelling
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>I have just been on the TABD site and made searches. On metric only two
>entries. When I am home I will post a gem from their site about TABD and
>metric. You will be astonished. I could not find anything more about metric
>only labelling, than that they had achieved the delay, and attempts to get
>into
>their archives all ended in 404 errors. I KNOW from what was on their site
>before 2000 that they had promised to the EU Commission to support optional
>metric only labelling. When the issue should crop up again I will inform the
>responsible people in the EU that Estee Lauder uses TWO different labels.
>
>Han
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>      Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Antwoorden aan:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: [USMA:24721] Re: Forum on MO labelling
>      Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>John,
>
>They had many more entries on *metric* in the past. And in one of them they
>claimed that they had promised to the EU Commission that they would support
>optional metric only labelling. I will have a look on their site myself
>tonight
>when I come home from work. They may have destroyed most of the entries.
>Anyway, I don't believe their promises. Their motives are highly suspect and
>Estee Lauders behaviour is proof of that. They have two labels, one for the
>US
>market, one for the world market. Both FFU first, and the second label
>has 'Franco-American' FFU as well.
>
>Han
>
>
>
>
>Citeren kilopascal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> 2003-02-02
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>>       SEARCH RESULTS 1 - 2 of 2 total results for metric
>>      Sort By Date  |  Hide Summaries
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>>       1. TransAtlantic Business Dialogue ..
>>       Home Speech by Michael Treschow CEO Electrolux and 2001 TABD
>Co-Chair
>> Swedish-American Chamber of Commerce October 19 & 20, 2001 Washington, DC
>and
>> New...
>>         ...(3G) mobile telecommunications standards. Thanks to the TABD,
>the
>> U.S. going metric inch by inch. The TABD literally took on nuts and bolts
>> when it...
>>       58% Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:57:11 GMT
>> http://www.tabd.com/media/2001/treschow1001.html
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>>
>>       2. CAPITAL MARKETS ..
>>       Transatlantic Business Dialogue (TABD) 2001 CEO Report WWW.TABD.COM
>> 2001 TABD CEO Report Page 1 Executive Summary The events of September 11th
>> 2001 and the...
>>         ...as well as small business from all sectors. Achievements have
>> included the Metric-Only Labelling Directive delay, resolution of third
>> generation (3G)...
>>       53% Thu, 02 May 2002 22:54:49 GMT
>> http://www.tabd.com/recommendations/oct2001.pdf
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>>       Sort By Date  |  Hide Summaries
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>>       )1999 TransAtlantic Business Dialogue. All Rights Reserved.
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>> Going to the TABD site, and doing a search on metric brings up these two
>> entries.  Notice that the TABD considers the delay of the metric only
>> directive an achievement.  Does anyone still have doubts of their true
>> intentions.
>>
>> John
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