.....YET 'FFU's prevail'.....Consider this: Most of the world is (.....CLAIMED TO BE)metric already, the metric system is a lot better than the non-metric units
we are using, and it is still difficult to get the U.S. to change over.Because a closed mind shall NOT allow any new input or *at least impede the process*. Did the (US) voluntarily sign the 'metre convention in a hurry?' and kept funding pro-antimetric organs, and allowed the process to grow from *micro to macro*
Now, how do you expect to get billions of people to change clocks and calendars (a much bigger change than metric conversion) for no benefit? There is no reason to do it! No one uses your proposal or Marcus's or anyone else's! Zero!There is 'no need for me' to convince 6 billions (by the way: Is BILLION 10^9 or 10^12) who need be convinced that NO MORE printing of calendars can save them the COSTS of paper alone that UNESCO who thought of propagating/considering the World Calendar, was worth the trouble taken; and that they have, as yet NOT closed their mind.
Yes, NOT changing the face of CLOCKS, number of 'degrees in the quadrant' or circle, shall only add to savings of FUTURE astronomical expenditure; BUT THIS needs THE WILL to 'change' mental attitdes. The start can be made at SCHOOLS, to meet midway!
>Was it not *DECIMALE* to mean 'decimal'?*Decimale* was the spellings used by French for 'decimal' when introducing the abondoned calendar *which lacked to 'bridge Time with Arc-angle i.e. the Hour-Angle*
I don't know what this means.
I myself, now, avoid Time & Calendar topic on USMA listserv, unless I get mail in my inbox. My applogy to USMA if I oversteped my limitations - BUT HERE IS something to ponder over (perhaps, for the open mind)! I often choose to DELETE, where I feel *no useful purpose shall be served by replying*. Yes, I do read all mails.
Regards,
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishwatah -Rg Veda.
*****The New Calendar Rhyme*****
Thirty days in July, September:
April, June, November, December;
All the rest have thirty-one; accepting February alone:
Which hath but twenty-nine, to be (in) fine;
Till leap year gives the whole week READY:
Is it not time to MODIFY or change to make it perennial, Oh Daddy!
And make the calendar work with Leap Week Rule! ***** ***** ***** *****
From: "Carl Sorenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [USMA:26261] Re: Systems of units, optimism vs. pessimism Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 11:25:02 -0600
Brij, I fail to see why you continue to post messages about clocks and angles. This is not a topic for this email list! Just because Joe Reid doesn't understand that yet doesn't mean you should continue to post messages about it. If you must send something, send it to individuals!
About your email: >Was it not *DECIMALE* to mean 'decimal'?
I don't know what this means.
>I have been posting my mails to mean *of the Metre, for and on behalf of the METRE* - even if I re-divide the (24h x60m x60s) clock to new intervals for time as *24h x100md x100sd* and link these with 90-degree'quadrant' with EACH degree further divided into 100' x100" like the HOUR, so 15-degree marker *Hour-Angle* remain undisturbed.
You continue advocate changes to time measurement without addressing the issues several of us have consistently raised--why on earth should we go to all the trouble of trying to change this way of measuring for six billion people? What possible benefit is there to making 24 hours of 100 minutes, etc.?
Consider this: Most of the world is metric already, the metric system is a
lot better than the non-metric units we are using, and it is still difficult
to get the U.S. to change over. Now, how do you expect to get billions of
people to change clocks and calendars (a much bigger change than metric
conversion) for no benefit? There is no reason to do it! No one uses your
proposal or Marcus's or anyone else's! Zero!
Please do not go on about your time and calendar and angle proposals again until you can answer that.
Carl
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brij Bhushan Vij Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 10:32 AM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:26261] Re: Systems of units, optimism vs. pessimism
Carl, sir:
Correct me right! Was it not *DECIMALE* to mean 'decimal'? Centime is a
coined word from Marcus. I have been posting my mails to mean *of the Metre,
for and on behalf of the METRE* - even if I re-divide the (24h x60m x60s)
clock to new intervals for time as *24h x100md x100sd* and link these with
90-degree'quadrant' with EACH degree further divided into 100' x100" like
the HOUR, so 15-degree marker *Hour-Angle* remain undisturbed.
Regards,
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishwatah -Rg Veda. *****The New Calendar Rhyme***** Thirty days in July, September: April, June, November, December; All the rest have thirty-one; accepting February alone: Which hath but twenty-nine, to be (in) fine; Till leap year gives the whole week READY: Is it not time to MODIFY or change to make it perennial, Oh Daddy!
And make the calendar work with Leap Week Rule! ***** ***** ***** *****
>From: "Joseph B. Reid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [USMA:26256] Re: Systems of units, optimism vs. pessimism
>Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 21:19:21 -0400
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>Carl Sorenson, in USMA 25942, deals with a posting from Marcus which I can
>not find on my computer. However, Marcus appears to want to replace the
>second with a more decimal umit. That would involve changing most of the
>units in physics. Unfortunately Marcus was not in France 208 years ago. A
>government decree on 1793 November 24 said (my tranlatioon):
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>"The day, midnight to midnight, is divided into ten parts or hours, each
>part into ten others. and so on to smallest measurable portion of time. The
>hundredth part of the hour is called the *decimal minute*; the hundredth
>part of the minute is called the *decimal second*."
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>This decree was suspended on 1795 April 7. I suspect that our Babylonian
>hours, minutes and seconds were too well established around the world.
>Marcus must admit that the Babylonian units can be divided neatly in many
>more ways than can be a stricly decimal day.
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>Joseph B. Reid
>17 Glebe Road West
>Toronto M5P 1C8 Telephone 416-486-6071
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