I still have my 1984 Renault Fuego, it has an oil pressure gauge that reads
in Bars, but does not give any unit on the gauge, just says 1 thru 6. It's
in the manual that you find the oil pressure is supposed to be no less than
2 bars at 2000 RPM when the coolant is around 80 C. I never heard of anyone
in the US having a problem with this. The other nice thing about this gauge
was that it actually went up and down as the RPM increased or the oil got
hotter, etc. The water temperature gauge was so accurate, you could see it
move slightly as the thermostat opened and closed.

Mike Payne

> [Original Message]
> From: Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: U.S. Metric Association <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > Date: 05/8/03 22:34:12
> Subject: [USMA:26513] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.
>
> 
> Ok..that's all fine.
> You guys should take that up with Mazda who provided a kg/cm2 oil pressure
> gauge. <g>
> 
> And like I've said before, bar is much more handy in automotive scenarios.
> 
> 
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:16:46 -0700
> Subject: [USMA:26512] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.
> 
> > To give you a briefer response than the one provided by Gene, the SI 
> > unit of pressure is the pascal (Pa). Tire pressure and oil pressure 
> > should be measured in kilopascals (kPa).
> > 
> > The average person doesn't need a full explanation -- just the
conversion
> > factor from pounds per square inch (6.894 757).
> > 
> > Bill Potts, CMS
> > Roseville, CA
> > http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
> > 
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Behalf Of Brian White
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 17:28
> > >To: U.S. Metric Association
> > >Cc: U.S. Metric Association
> > >Subject: [USMA:26510] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Uhh..no converter.
> > >I used the factory OEM gauge from a "rest of the world" Miata.  In
> > >this case,
> > >my gauge came from a Canadian spec car.
> > >
> > >Your please note response is one of the reasons many Americans
> > >think we're a
> > >bunch of wackos.  Although, that's fine to discuss that sort of thing
> > >(force/area vs mass/area, etc) with others in the know (this mailing
list),
> > >you start talking to Joe-6-pack about it, and you'll lose him quicker
than
> > >anything.
> > >
> > >So...if I pushed on a metal square...really really hard. I'd say that's
> > >pressure I'm applying.  If I measured the force hitting that little
> > >square...could I not say that the force I was measuring was the force
of my
> > >pressing it really really hard?
> > ><grin>
> > >
> > >See...we start getting too weird with this stuff..we lose our audience.
> > >
> > >---------- Original Message -----------
> > >From: Gene Mechtly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:16:46 -0500 (CDT)
> > >Subject: Re: [USMA:26488] Speaking of automotive gauges.
> > >
> > >> On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Brian White wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I converted my oil pressure gauge in my Miata from PSI to kg/cm2.
> > >> > ...
> > >>
> > >> Brian,
> > >>
> > >> Please note that the SI unit of pressure is newton/meter2, force/area
> > >> (N/m2, or pascal); kg/cm2 is mass/area which is *not* a pressure.
> > >>
> > >> PSI is pounds (force)/inch2, not pounds (mass)/inch2.
> > >>
> > >> Did you use a *converter* which fails to distinguish between mass and
> > >> force?
> > >>
> > >> Gene.
> > >------- End of Original Message -------
> > >
> ------- End of Original Message -------



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