I'm surprised nobody has yet commented on what AU stands for -- astronomical
unit.

Given that it is defined as the mean distance between the Earth and the Sun,
it certainly offers a short way of expressing a distance in terms of a
multiple of the Earth-Sun distance.

An objection to the use such a comparative unit doesn't actually advance the
SI argument. One can express astronomical distances in gigameters,
terameters, petameters, etc. (for which nobody actually has a real feeling),
and add clarification in terms of the AU (for which the layperson does have
some general feeling -- as long as s/he knows the definition).

On the other hand, where we're measuring things on a human scale, from the
size of a molecule to the distance between cities, we shouldn't need that
kind of comparison quite as much (although saying something [e.g., a cruise
ship] is the length of so many football fields does have a certain appeal).

Regarding the distance to Mars, the use of gigameters needn't involve the
use of 6 decimal places. To anyone but an astronomer, "56 Gm" is close
enough.

Bill Potts, CMS
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]


>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Behalf Of David Shatto
>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:48
>To: U.S. Metric Association
>Subject: [USMA:26935] RE: NASA NEO report
>
>
>My comments below.
>
>On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:48:33 +0100 "Terry Simpson" wrote:
>> I think 'million km' beats AU. I am familiar with metres and see them all
>> around me but have no idea about AU.
>
>Normally I'd agree, but in a report about Near Earth Objects I think it's
>appropriate to use a Earth-centric measurement unit that gives "ballpark"
>distance approximations.  More precise measurements would be done in km
>of course.
>
>This is a technical report made by working scientists for working
>scientists, so they don't concern themselves with the fact that the
>public doesn't understand what an "AU" is.  I'm sure you realize that if
>it WAS written for the public, they'd be using feet and miles no doubt!
>Sad but true!
>
>> Incidentally, 'million km' is not the only SI compliant way of
>expressing a
>> distance of that magnitude. However, people appear reluctant to apply the
>> prefixes beyond kilo to metres and grams. Does anybody have any idea why
>> that is?
>
>Yes, that's irked me terribly too.  In astronomy they always use millions
>or billions of km (mostly without any regard to the difference between
>American billions and English billions, but that's another problem, isn't
>it?)  I have never seen Mm or Gm distances, and I really think they
>should be used.  [Then again, I'm only casually involved in space
>science, so maybe there are some groups out there I don't know about that
>use these prefixes regularly.]
>
>I think that large km distances are used to avoid decimalized
>measurements (eg saying "Mars was recently 55,758,006 km from Earth" is
>better than saying "... 55.758006 Gm from Earth").  This follows the same
>reasoning for using only mm and m as standard units for measurement in
>the trades.
>
>David Shatto
>Los Angeles
>

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