Marcus, sir:
Secondly, Brij, there is no question in my mind that if one is *truly* concerned
about building a universal type of system one should consider the issue of
*correct frameworks* very seriously.
I have only tried to elucidate on 'coherence' and differentiate between: What is *decimal vs metric*? I am with you, on clarity of thought. Let's not forget: 'METRIC is what relate to - the metre'.

Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20031031/08:40 AM(IST)
Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishwatah -Rg Veda.
     *****The New Calendar Rhyme*****
Thirty days in July, September:
April, June, November, December;
All the rest have thirty-one; accepting February alone:
Which hath but twenty-nine, to be (in) fine;
Till leap year gives the whole week READY:
Is it not time to MODIFY or change to make it perennial, Oh Daddy!

And make the calendar work with Leap Week Rule!
*****     *****     *****     *****

From: "Ma Be" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [USMA:27359] Re:  decimal scales and usage
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:44:27 -0700

I'll take this opportunity to kill two birds with one stone here.

Ron, I forgot to ask you to explain to me how one is supposed to report time without the use of a "unit" (that's what I understood from your reaction to my post on the new name for a new second).

Secondly, Brij, there is no question in my mind that if one is *truly* concerned about building a universal type of system one should consider the issue of *correct frameworks* very seriously.

Having said that it's fair to say that if this were taken seriously a *LOT OF REFORMS* would have to be introduced in our present SI system.

Many of us here have already indicated and given crystal clear proof of that. For instance, with the issue of prefixes.

Consistency dictates that positive powers of 10 should entail capital letters for naming them, while small letters would need to be chosen for negative powers of 10.

Decimal principles for a choice of *finite* scales is another principle that should be incorporated. Therefore, there would be NO choice but to either adopt the unity for a circle or a quarter circle, for example, in the case of alternative means to measure angles from a practical perspective.

The same would hold true for the time construct. There should be no escape to that.

Therefore, the ONLY conclusion for choices one would have concerning that aspect would have to fall on using 10, 100 or 1000 for a whole day, and never, 20 or 24, for instance. I, unfortunately cannot see an escape for this. Again, contingent upon people taking the issue of decimality as linked to measurement concepts seriously when developing frameworks that should last indefinitely.

Marcus

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:00:25
 Ronald L. STONE wrote:
>Brij,
>
>It may be too early to make a determination about the features of any
>transitional decimal scale. The development and design of time and
>date formats remains under consideration.
>
>I would certainly hope however that any emerging scales of uniform
>time and date be based on real-world expectations for the use of
>decimal scales.
>
>Best,
>
>--
>Ron
>
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>
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>this message does not necessarily reflect
>the views of any organization I may be affiliated with,
>and should be regarded as personal opinion.
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