Three phase power into private homes is very rare.  If you have all three
phases it's generally to run large motors, which are much more efficient
with three phrase running (and I don't think single phase motors get above a
certain size anyway).  The biggest motor in most houses would be the air
conditioner compressor and unless you are filthy rich and live in a mansion
even that is normally not that large.  If you own a farm, though, it's
another matter.

Normally two of the three phase wires come into a home.  Across the two,
it's 220 v (nominally) and is used for high-amperage appliances such as
stoves, ovens, water heaters, air conditioners, and dryers.  From either to
neutral is 110 v (again nominally) for lighting and other general purpose
uses - and the circuits are divided as evenly as possible between the two.
The above is valid for the USA and Canada, at least.

When I lived in San Francisco we had a 100 amp house service.  But then we
had gas water heat and no need for an air conditioner.

Wonder how it's done in the UK and other 220-240 v countries.

Carleton

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Phil Chernack
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 12:36
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28492] Re: Torque and horsepower

Marcus,

Power is usually given in amps because it is easier to calculate the load on
a particular breaker in your house this way.  For instance, if I have a 15
amp circut and I put a 3 amp appliance on it, I know my remaining draw
before blowing the circut is 10 or so amps (allowing for a margin of
safety).  If power was given in watts only, I would have to divide watts by
volts to get the amperage draw.  BTW, most, if not all appliances give the
wattage as well.  Remember, American homes have 3 phase power coming into
them.  One bus at 220 divided into 2 at 110 each.  The total amperage
provided is usually around 200.

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Ma Be
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 12:19 PM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:28491] Re: Torque and horsepower


Dear John, I think I could answer some of your questions below (they're
interspersed).

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:49:56
 john mercer wrote:
>Is the output of electric motors still given in horsepower?

To my knowledge this is one of the few products that I see reasonably
correctly quoted in the market, i.e. in W.  There might be exceptions though
as you found below.

>  I have been on some small appliance web sites and they give the power of
the motors in amps.

True.  However, I cannot understand (for the love!...) of me why ANYONE
should quote power in 'amps' (S-I-C)!  Whoever does that is evidently either
delusional or has absolutely no understanding of the most fundamental
principles of Physics...  The ampere is a unit of *current*, NOT power!

>...  I don't know if Kilowatts would ever be excepted in North America,
because everybody uses horsepower all the time...

Who knows?  As long as the populace continues to treat measurements in
general as some "cultural" aspect in their lives we'll continue to
experience and see such nonsense in the marketplace, what can I say?...

Marcus


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