MightyChimp makes my point.
 
Consumers are more interested in the feel, smell, size etc without looking at labels. When making a decision to buy they compare, then look at unit prices and they don't care what units are used since they are comparing differences in price for comparable items.  The head of the national consumers organization has made the point since the mid 1970s.
 
People don't mind buying 35-millimeter film, drugs by milligrams, soft drinks by liters, wine and spirits, etc etc etc.  These changes have not been enmass like chimp suggests needs to be done.  There has been an easy natural progression to metric.  The same has been true for the auto industry.
 
It's a matter of economics for the manufacturers (and consumers) who operate on an international basis.  They know best how and when to convert their products or labels to metric given enough time without hitting consumers with massive financial burdens through government mandates.  Six years seems to be sufficient.
 
Stan Doore
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: [USMA:29934] Re: Metric in the States

First of all I highly doubt we are going to see an en masse dropping of FFU from labels in the US market.  Even if some products do show only metric and no one other then the organised resistance makes an issue of it, does not mean the public in general is going to start becoming gung-ho pro metric. 
 
Most consumers, myself an example, don't pay close attention to product labels.  I pick products by their appeal to me personally, (smell, taste, etc.) and the price (more accurately , if they are on sale).  Some people are attracted to the pretty packages and like. 
 
As for unit pricing, it will remain FFU based.  Even existing metric products are unit priced in FFU. 
 
Presently on supermarket shelves one sees a variety of FFU sizes, not all in rounded numbers.  Consumers don't seem to mind, thus packages in rounded metric aren't going to catch most people's attention.  where the explosion would most likely occur is when people have to speak metric units to others.  Like, "can I have 200 g of ham please?".  As I'm writing this I can see the facial contortions as Mrs US Hausfrau tries to utter the word "grams".   Then having to worry that the patriot police don't hear here speak an un-American word. 
 
Labelling is one thing, but speaking it and hearing it is a much greater battle that will have to be fought.
 
Euric
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, 2004-05-23 14:51
Subject: Re: [USMA:29924] Re: Metric in the States

Since the US Government will enact legislation which allows metric only labeling of products in grocery stores and elsewhere by year 2010, people will become familiar with metric, particularly when unit pricing is displayed on store shelves.
 
This change is necessary to allow US companies to have a single label for worldwide consumers to avoid the cost of labeling identical products differently.
 
Stan Doore
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: [USMA:29924] Re: Metric in the States

Ask those very same people about buying gasoline in litres, hearing metric weather forecasts, buying deli items in grams and kilograms (and I mean having to ask for amounts in metric), driving down metric signed roads, etc.  and see how many of those "metricated" people would agree to further metrication.
 
Yes, it may be old hat as far as fasteners are concerned, but that does not translate into a broad acceptance of metric by these people elsewhere in the economy. 
 
Brigs and Stratton changed because they may not have had a choice.  I'm sure it wasn't because they thought the metric system was better.  It might have been as simple as wanting to produce the engine outside of the US and the foreign company doing the job wouldn't have the American parts to do it.  Or maybe they had are having a hard time securing non-metric fasteners for their type of product as all other users are already metric. 
 
But for whatever the reason don't feel that the employees of the company who may now be getting use to metric drawings and metric parts in the shop are all of a sudden going to get a warm fuzzy feeling about buying consumer products in anything but "good olde 'merican". 
 
Euric
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, 2004-05-23 12:08
Subject: [USMA:29922] Metric in the States

Hello I would like to comment on some of the things that Chimp says about metric in the States.  There are many!! people in the States that use metric every day of their lives. I speek of mechanics in the auto industry who work on North American built cars.  I have an interest in small gasoline engines and was on a forum and received an e mail from an automotive instructor in the States who has been teaching automotive mechanics for over 30 years.  I asked him what it was like when the North American auto industry changed to metric fasteners, he said it was frustrating at first but now it's old hat.  People in the medical field use metric every day.  People that design cars in North America design them in metric.  Yes there isn't as much metric for the average American as there is even in Canada, but to say that Americans couldn't learn it is not right.  Canadians learned the metric system as far as it has come, and we are no different than the Americans or British.  I get really annoied with people in marketing who say customers can't understand metric.  Brigs and Stratton changed the fasteners on one of their engines from standard to metric on Jul. 1 2003 and their is talk of them changing fasteners on more of their engines.  Thank you very much everybody for letting me ramble on.  John Mercer.                

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