This is not what I meant.

Sometime this year, a new EU wide labelling standard is suppose to go into
effect.  It is the clothing industry themselves that came up with it since
the old system has caused a huge loss of profits due to returns of clothing
that does not fit.

It is the system with the pictogram.  It is EN13402

I heard something about October and was wondering if anyone else heard
anything to confirm this date

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/download/bodydim.pdf

http://www.aedt.org/today/TWIB63%20031112.pdf

Euric

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Naughtin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, 2004-05-23 18:21
Subject: [USMA:29940] Re: New cloths sizing system


> Dear Euric,
>
> I think that the clothing industry worldwide is still struggling with
metric
> conversion. Of course some companies and some nations are better than
> others.
>
> Here in Australia, most mass produced clothing is sourced from Asia, so it
> is designed and made using centimetres. Individually made garments,
however,
> still use inches, but often give these a veneer of centimetres.
>
> On a personal level, clothing patterns often are sourced from the UK and
the
> USA, so these are all still solidly written using old inch measures. I
> sometimes worry about mothers who sew (in inches) and then have to help
> their daughters with their metric homework; these mothers know that their
> daughters need to learn about inches so that they can make their own
clothes
> (assuming continuing UK and USA dress patterns). I think that, as mothers
> are a prime source of cultural values, this transmission of the value of
> inches from generation to generation can be a major impediment to smooth
and
> rapid metrication.
>
> Clothing shop assistants find themselves living in this nether world
between
> centimetres and inches and constantly translate between the two. Their
> culture values inches more highly of course, because the 'better' garments
> are still made in inches.
>
> It's all quite odd really.
>
> My guess is that the metric transition in the clothing industry (using
> centimetres as their small metric unit) will take about 100 years, and
that
> the writing of metric clothing standards, both national and international,
> (also using centimetres) will make little difference to this time frame.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pat Naughtin LCAMS
> Geelong, Australia
> -- 
>
> on 2004-05-23 23.07, MightyChimp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > A few weeks back, a poster to the metric sucks site mentioned being
fitted by
> > a tailor and having it done in inches.  The person later referred to the
new
> > labelling standard and mentioned October.  Since, to my knowledge, no
actual
> > date was ever given I was wondering if this person may have come across
some
> > other news source giving this date as official.  Does anyone here have
> > knowledge of this?
> >
> > Now, I have suspected it would be introduced with a seasonal clothing
change,
> > such as the introduction of either fall or winter clothes.  I would also
> > suspect the labels would appear on the new clothes and clothes already
> > labelled would not change.
> >
> > How is the UK preparing for this change?  Or are they going to ignore it
to
> > the last minute and surprise the consumer and allow them to whine up a
storm
> > claiming confusion and metrickery?  If this change is going to be
successful,
> > the people must be educated ahead of time.
> >
> > The conversion of scales would have been a lot more successful in the UK
if a
> > better education/advertising effort was made.  If people would have been
shown
> > how to buy and smart shop in metric there would have been less
resistance to
> > it.
> >
> > Is there any reason why the UKMA does not involve itself in the
education of
> > the public prior to a major conversion event or at least insist through
their
> > contacts and channels that some sort of education be conducted?   If
not, why
> > not?
> >
> >
> > Euric
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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