I suspect that the issue at hand is how much Imperial is used in everyday conversations between citizens (especially outside of work). If there is still a fair bit (feet and inches for heights, pounds -- or even, horror of horrors, stones -- for mass, inches, feet, yards or miles depending on the length involved), then the everyday "feel" will still be very much Imperial. And if many television shows (including all US imports) are still firmly planted in the world of Imperial (or its American cousin), then clearly there is still a problem.
 
Ezra
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:35 AM
Subject: [USMA:30622] Re: UKMA Questionnaire - answered by the BWMA

But apart from road signs and pints of beer in pubs, there is little actually left in Britain that IS imperial, Han.
 
Pre-packaged goods have been SI for years.  Spirits are sold in metric measures.  Nearly all of our industry uses SI measurements because trying to measure small tolerances in the likes of binary fractions is a pain in the backside.
 
In truth, there is only items sold loose that are actually sold in pounds and ounces, any even they, as you are aware, have to be supplemented by law with a more prominent metric measurement.
 
The BWMA are kidding themselves if they believe that this is a mainly imperial using country.  It isn't!  Far from it!
 
Regards,
 
Steve.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: H. Maenen
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:18 PM
Subject: [USMA:30620] Re: UKMA Questionnaire - answered by the BWMA

That is typical BWMA-stupidity. They make it appear that Britain has high economic growth because of its use of ifp, while the present sluggisch economic growth in The Netherlands, Germany and France is caused by the use of SI in these countries.

The higher economic growth in Britain (and Ireland) is caused by their adoption of the American social-economic model; France, Germany and The Netherlands use the Rhineland model, a more 'social' type of capitalism, which at present has the wind against it.. Strange that Ireland is going metric and yet has high economic growth, isn't it BWMA?

Han

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Subject : [USMA:30619] UKMA Questionnaire - answered by the BWMA
           
Tony      Bennett

                                         
QuestionnaireAugust 3            2004, 1:01 PM 
                               

           
re: UKMA Questionnaire

Would you like to            see Britain get out of the measurement unit mess?

YES, by            allowing the market to revert to Imperial            use

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Would            you like to see your children be able to use the units they are            taught in school?

NO. I'd like them to learn both sets of            units            

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Would            you like price transparency through consistently labelled            quantities?

Er, I can think of some other priorities ahead            of            that

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Would            you like to see Britain be internationally competitive by using the            international system of units?

Hardly, since over in France,            Germany and Holland, where they already have S.I. units (and            something called the euro), they have unemployment at up to 10%,            growth is non-existent, and inward investment way behind            Britain's

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Would            you like a safer Britain using one single set of units?

On            the roads, yes - Imperial - like 99.9% of the signs are already. I            wouldn't want any more Adam Doggetts of this world to he stuck under            any more bridges signed illegally in metric units - nor lorries            banging into an overhang because the height's been wrongly converted            to            metric

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Would            you like to see the end of the ban on metric units on our roads,            footpaths and pubs?

NO. I'd like to see the end of the ban            on selling loose goods in pounds and a posthumous Royal Pardon for            the late Steve Thoburn


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NO. I'd like them to learn both sets of units
 
A comment on this answer:
 
Learning both systems is a BWMA trick.  What they hope is that people who are taught both systems will continue to chose to use FFU and forget metric.  They constantly make claims about people who ran into trouble with metric by not knowing it despite it being taught in the schools.   Because once out of school, they use only imperial.  I find that hard to believe, especially if one works in a metric industry and shops in a market where only metric products exist..
 
 
 

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