.....the biblical value of p is 3. (The actual value is approximately 3.14159.)Early Hindus used Pi approximation as *sqrt 10*. I attempted to process the dimensions of Great Bath at Monejo-Daro; and interpretted as a possible observatory using 'Pi and specific angles, making the base diagonal to height angle as pi/18'.
During my interprettation published in:
* Linear Standard in the Indus Civilisation: FRONTIERS OF THE INDUS CIVILISATION (Sir
Mortimer Wheeler Commemoration Volume -1984); Indian Archaeological Society; Archaeological Survey of India, New Delhi; Doc # 16; pp 153-156; and
*Time Metrication in Mohenjo-Daro: Patriot Magazine, New Delhi; 1984 May 06.
I projected that Mohenjo-Daro Bath had been constructed and had its links to *Metrication and useage of Time as well in metric sub-distribution of the day had been in their know*.
On processing most values for Pi that man has used during his progress, my evaluation suggest that NONE of these values FIXES *either Pi or radian*. I place these approximations at:
http://the-light.com/cal/bbv_pi-radian.jpg
I, thus fix the value for Pi (as yet another value) =100000/31831 which also fixes the arcAngle radian at 57*.2958 (exactly).
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From: Scott Hudnall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [USMA:30674] Re: Stupid anti-metric poem Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2004 23:06:25 -0700
Measurement and mathematics in the Bible should be taken with a healthy dose of skepticism and an few mg of salt. There are a lot of good examples found at http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/long.html .
Here are a few of my favorites:
68. Since the molten sea was round with a diameter of ten cubits and a circumference of thirty cubits, we know that the biblical value of p is 3. (The actual value is approximately 3.14159.)� 4:2
21. Noah is told to make an ark that is 450 feet long. The largest wooden ships ever built were just over 300 feet, and they required diagonal iron strapping for support. Even so, they leaked so badly that they had to be pumped constantly. Are we to believe that Noah, with no shipbuilding knowledge and no shipbuilding tradition to rely upon, was able to construct a wooden ship that was longer than any that has been built since? But not only was the ark too big to be seaworthy, it was far too small to be able to contain the earth's millions of plant and animals species. 6:14-15
22. Whether by twos or by sevens, Noah takes male and female representatives from each species of "every thing that creepeth upon the earth." Now this must have taken some time, along with expert knowledge of taxonomy, genetics, biogeography, and anatomy. How did Noah manage to collect the endemic species from the New World, Australia, Polynesia, and other remote regions entirely unknown to him? How, once he found them, did he transport them back to his Near Eastern home? How could he tell the male and female beetles (there are more than 500,000 species) apart? How did he know how to care for these new and unfamiliar animals? How did he find the space on the ark? How did he manage to find and care for the hundreds of thousands of parasitic species? How did Noah obtain and care for the hundreds of thousands of species of plants? (Plants are ignored in the Genesis account, but the animals wouldn't last long after if the plants died in the flood.) No, wait, don't tell me. A miracle happened. Millions of them. 7:8
23. All of the animals boarded the ark "in the selfsame day." Since there were several million species involved, they must have boarded at a rate of at least 100/second. How did poor Noah and his family make sure that the correct number of each species entered through the door and then get them all settled into their proper living quarters so efficiently? I wish the airline companies could do as well! 7:13-14
24. The flood covered the highest mountain tops (Mount Everest?) with fifteen cubits to spare. Where did all the water come from? Where did it all go? Why is there no evidence of such a massive flood in the geological record? 7:20
On 2004 Aug 07, at 18:08, Euric wrote:
I'm far from being an expert on what the Bible says. But certain things I
do know.
1.) The measurements used in the Bible were not imperial. The Hebrew texts
used ancient Hebrew and Egyptian units. Two that come to mind is the shekel
and the cubit. The New testament written in Greek used Greek units, like
the stadium. Thus it seems the units used followed the custom of the times.
2.) Imperial has its roots in Babylon, which the Biblical god considers an
abomination. Following the customs of nations considered an abomination was
also an abomination. Thus one can stretch the logic to say that the
biblical god considers imperial an abomination.
3.) There is a passage in Leviticus 19 that is the only reference to
weights and measures as a command and the emphasis is on honest weights and
measures not any particular unit. By this very statement we can surmise
that the accomplishments of the BIPM in defining precise units for the SI is
in complete harmony with this law. If one wanted to, one can say that the
historical variations in the non-SI units was not in the spirit of the law.
http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible? language=english&passage=LEV+19&version=NIRV
Leviticus 19
35 " 'Be honest when you measure lengths, weights or amounts.
36 Use honest scales and honest weights. Use honest dry measures. And use
honest liquid measures. I am the Lord your God. I brought you out of Egypt.
37 " 'Obey all of my rules and laws. Follow them. I am the Lord.' "
Euric
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 2004-08-07 20:38 Subject: [USMA:30672] Re: Stupid anti-metric poem
To many of us (and I honestly don't know how many), the idea that a deityposition
would concern him/her/itself with such matters is bizarre anyway.
Observing that others are using a religious justification for theirjustis one thing. Countering with a "God is on our side" argument, when the issue is rational and scientific and unrelated to religion or a theistic belief, is quite another.
This is not an attempt to denigrate anyone's basic religious beliefs --God.a request, from one participant to others, that they not be aired here.
Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David King Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 15:03 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:30671] Re: Stupid anti-metric poem
The idea that imperial units came from God is rather ridiculous. The
ancient Israelites did not use imperial units, although the early
Christian Church would have perhaps used the Roman imperial system as it
was the commonly used and dominant system in the world at that time, at
least in the Roman Empire. Today metric is the dominant system, and I
believe that God would want us to use the dominant system, just as we
have the Bible today in modern English and do not have to learn ancient
Hebrew and Greek to understand it, so we should not have to use ancient
measurement units in our daily lives just because something similar was
once used in the Bible.
The whole thing about pyramidology I know little about, but it sounds very ungodly to me -- it was the ungodly Egyptians who built pyramids, and the ancient Israelites who were rescued from Egypt, and the Bible refers to Egypt as a sinful place.
Thus I cannot see any reason why God would want His people to use imperial units in the modern age. But He would have wanted them used before metric was invented back in the Middle Ages.
If we revert back to imperial measures, then why not revert back to old English, old currency, get rid of all the modern things of society like cars, planes, computers, electricity, and free speech, and go back to the days of old when no one had freedoms except the very rich, and everything measured in imperial. Is this what anti-metric people really want? I doubt it, but they probably want the modern world, or least the benefits and comforts of it, but without the thing that makes it so good. The imperial system is totally inadequate for scientific use in regards to the technology of today, so those who want imperial should really be shunning all modern technology otherwise they are hypocrites.
David King
Han Maenen wrote:
connected withJames,
I know that other poem, it was from the 19th century. It wasPyramidology, which claimed that Imperial and US units were given byhowin Northern
A Prod is an insulting term for Protestant. Another insult usedIreland is Taig. A Taig is a Roman Catholic.
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Wentworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, 2004-08-07 13:01 Subject: [USMA:30662] Re: Stupid anti-metric poem
It's bigoted poetry, too. I don't know what a "Prod" is, but the term
"Mick" is considered a nasty anti-Irish slur in the US.
At least some of the old anti-metric verse was creative. One of the
better ones I remember goes like this:
Then down with every metric scheme taught by the foreign school! We'll worship still our fathers' God, and keep our fathers' rule! A perfect inch, a perfect pound will still on Earth be found, When time shall come unto an end, and Gabriel's trumpet sound!
-- Jason
----- Original Message ----- From: Han Maenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: U.S. Metric Association <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 3:08 AM Subject: [USMA:30661] Stupid anti-metric poem
Here is the whole stupid junk. Apart from the anti-metric nonsense,
can
he claim that the English language is in danger? English is assaulting
language after language and it is spreading all over the world.
He even wants to go back to LSD money, what kind of a dinosaur is this
Manderson?
Han
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