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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:37 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

MonteQuest wrote:
The US dollar is hovering at 9-year lows against the euro. The US dollar has not been able to mount a significant rebound even with support from a FED RATE hike, strong new job numbers, and certainty regarding the outcome of US Presidential election. On the other hand, the EUR/USD rate faces strong technical resistance at 1.30. The EUR/USD appears ready to make a major move towards 1.40, or after failing to break through technical resistance could retrace back to 1.25.



Today is 2004-12-04 and the euro is at a record high just under 1.35 €/$. A week or so ago, the "experts" predicted it wouldn't get this far until summer 2005. What we are seeing is a massive sell-off of dollar reserves from around the world. So much for the technical resistance theory.

Those "reported" strong new job numbers don't impress anyone in the world. We all know that US job creation means exporting and destroying well paying jobs in exchange for those that pay much less and offer almost no benefits. Which means that for the average American family a higher dependance on credit for support and thus higher deficits.

The increase in the FED RATE is meaningless if the increase is so small it is easily lost in the increasing value of the euro. The Feds will have to raise the rate to that greater then the euro is appreciating in order to attract investments and hard currency needed to secure the deficits. However such a move will defintely destailise the US housing and stock markets. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.


There are only two ways that I know of to increase the value of the dollar:

1.) The US would have to buy back all of the dollars floating around in the world. But with what would they buy them? They would need euros and other currencies to exchange and if they have none they can not buy the dollars back.

2.) Export more then they import. Sounds good on paper but not realistic. The US has to sell to the world what the world is willing to buy. Hard to do that if the world is metric and the US isn't. Also the US has exported much of their job base needed to produce exportable goods to places like Mexico, China and India. These places may see increased trade from a falling dollar but not the US. America wanted to be a service economy and the odd thing is, the services are not exportable.

The US is going to collapse into a 3-rd world economy that will not recover for a couple of generations, if that.
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New postPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:12 am    Post subject: History of metric systems & U.S. resistance to it. Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Hard to do that if the world is metric and the US isn't. Also the US has exported much of their job base needed to produce exportable goods to places like Mexico, China and India. These places may see increased trade from a falling dollar but not the US. America wanted to be a service economy and the odd thing is, the services are not exportable.


Welcome to Peakoil.com, Euric. I am guessing that you are from Europe, and I agree with most of your comments in several posts regarding the dollar and the Euro.

I remember the resistance to metric that we have seen in America over my lifetime, and I wish that we had continued the metrification program that our retrogressive President Reagan shuffled off to obscurity in 1982. I still recall people in this country saying that since we were the world's leader, we shouldn't have to adapt to the stupid metric system - and now it is coming back to bite us. Here's a brief history of the metric system and U.S. involvement in half-assed conversion.

The link at the bottom includes info on the Mars orbiter disaster which was caused by a metric/english system mixup, and how an effort is being made to at many levels to switch to metric in the U.S. However, unless the President comes out and says "It's imperative for America to go metric as soon as possible," we will continue to bumble our way toward full metrification as the world moves ahead without us. However, Bush II is not very enlightened, and not likely to do anything in this area that would upset any corporations or conservative voter blocs. Perhaps when U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney said "The American way of life is not negotiable" he meant using English measurements as well as driving 8-mpg SUV's.

Here's the brief history of modern metric systems.

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1585: In his book "The Tenth" Simon Stevin suggests that a decimal system should be used for weights and measures, coinage, and divisions of the degree of arc.
1670: Authorities give credit for originating the metric system to Gabriel Mouton, a French vicar, on about this date.
1790: Thomas Jefferson proposed a decimal-based measurement system for the United States. France's Louis XVI authorized scientific investigations aimed at a reform of French weights and measures. These investigations led to the development of the first "metric" system.
1792: The U.S. Mint was formed to produce the world's first decimal currency (the U.S. dollar consisting of 100 cents).
1795: France officially adopted the metric system.
1866: The use of the metric system made legal (but not mandatory) in the United States by the (Kasson) Metric Act of 1866 (Public Law 39-183) [See: Page 1 and Page 2]. This law also made it unlawful to refuse to trade or deal in metric quantities.
1875: The Convention of the Metre signed in Paris by 18 nations, including the United States. The Meter Convention, often called the Treaty of the Meter in the United States, provided for improved metric weights and measures and the establishment of the General Conference on Weights and Measures (CGPM) devoted to international agreement on matters of weights and measures.
1889: As a result of the Metre Convention, the U.S. received a prototype meter and kilogram to be used as measurement standards.
1893: These metric prototypes were declared "fundamental standards of length and mass" in the Mendenhall Order. Since that date, the yard, pound, etc. have been officially defined in terms of the metric system.
1916: The Metric Association formed as a non-profit organization advocating adoption of the metric system in U.S. commerce and education. The organizational name started as the American Metric Association and was changed to the U.S. Metric Association (USMA) in 1974.
1920: The Metric Association published its first metric style guide.
1954: The International System of Units began its development. Six new metric base units were adopted.
1958: A conference of English-speaking nations agreed to unify their standards of length and mass, and define them in terms of metric measures. The American yard was shortened and the imperial yard was lengthened as a result. The new conversion factors were announced in 1959 in the Federal Register.
1964: The National Bureau of Standards (NBS) made the metric system its standard "except when the use of these units would obviously impair communication or reduce the usefulness of a report."
1968: Public Law 90-472 authorized a 3-year U.S. Metric Study, to determine the impact of increasing metric use on the U.S. This study was carried out by the National Bureau of Standards (NBS).
1971: The U.S. Metric Study resulted in a Report to the Congress: A Metric America, A Decision Whose Time Has Come. The 13-volume report concluded that the U.S. should, indeed, "go metric" deliberately and carefully through a coordinated national program, and establish a target date 10 years ahead, by which time the U.S. would be predominately metric.
1973: The UCLA/USMA/LACES/STC/and other professional groups National Metric Conference, the largest ever held, totaling 1700 registrants, took place at the University of California, Los Angeles in September. It took place as a result of USMA's recommendation. USMA coordinated and directed the event. One of the speakers was the U.S. Secretary of Commerce. Also, the American National Metric Council (ANMC) formed as a not-for-profit, non-advocative trade organization to plan and coordinate SI implementation by U.S. industry.
1974: The Education Amendments of 1974 (Public Law 92-380) encouraged educational agencies and institutions to prepare students to use the metric system of measurement as part of the regular educational program.
1975: The Metric Conversion Act of 1975 (Public Law 94-168) passed by Congress. The Act established the U.S. Metric Board to coordinate and plan the increasing use and voluntary conversion to the metric system. However, the Act was devoid of any target dates for metric conversion.
1979: The Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) requires wine producers and importers to switch to metric bottles in seven standard [liter and milliliter] sizes.
1980: The Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) requires distilled spirits (hard liquor) bottles to conform to the volume of one of six standard metric [liter and milliliter] sizes.
1982: President Ronald Reagan disbanded the U.S. Metric Board and canceled its funding. Responsibility for metric coordination was transferred to the Office of Metric Programs in the Department of Commerce.
1988: The Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988 (Public Law 100-418) amended and strengthened the Metric Conversion Act of 1975, designating the SI metric system as the preferred measurement system, and requiring each federal agency to be metric by the end of fiscal year 1992.
1991: President George H. W. Bush signed Executive Order 12770, Metric Usage in Federal Government Programs directing all executive departments and federal agencies implement the use of the metric system. The Executive Order is also available as an appendix to: Interpretation of the SI for the United States and Federal Government Metric Conversion Policy
1994: The Fair Packaging and Labeling Act (FPLA) was amended by the Food and Drug and Administration (FDA) to require the use of dual units (inch-pound AND metric) on all consumer products.
1996: As of July 1996 all surface temperature observations in National Weather Service METAR/TAF reports are now transmitted in degrees Celsius.
2000: September: This deadline that all agreements, contracts, and plans processed by individual states for federally-funded highway construction be in metric units was canceled by Congressional action, leaving metric conversion as voluntary but still recommended to comply with the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988. Several State Departments of Transportation continue to use the metric system despite the deadline being rescinded.
2001-April: U.S. Stock Exchanges finalized the change to decimal trading. The Securities and Exchange Commission has ordered that all stocks must be quoted in dollars and cents rather than fractions by this date. The switch to decimal trading brought the U.S. in line with the rest of the world's major exchanges. This follows the change of the Canadian Stock Exchanges to decimal trading in 1996.

Future metric deadlines:
2005 January 20: Target date for road signs in Ireland to be converted from miles to kilometers. To accompany this, new cars must have kilometers as the primary speed displayed on their speedometers.
200?: The U.S. should allow metric-only packaging by amending the Fair Packaging and Labeling Act (FPLA). This would be a good step towards meeting EU requirements for SI-only labels in 2009.
2009 December 31: All products sold in Europe (with limited exceptions) will be required to have only SI metric units on their labels. Dual labeling will not be permitted. Implementation of the labeling directive, previously 1999 December 31, was extended by the EU Commission for 10 years, giving more time for companies to comply and for U.S. regulations to allow metric-only labeling on consumer products.


US Metric Association Website

(Note that the website is on a Colorado State University website, and not on a U.S. government website.)

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