Dear Rob and All,

Many years ago, I heard of a 13th Century English unit called a tun. This
was a volume unit that I understood was used to measure stored grain. I
include an item about the tun in the History item in the latest 'Metrication
matters' newsletter, see
http://www.metricationmatters.com/mm-newsletter-2005-01.html

Wikipedia also has the following two paragraphs that I have quoted in
reverse order see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton :

The first paragraph suggests that originally the tunne or tonne was a
measure of volume. This fits with my story of a tun as a volume measure for
grain.

'The word ton or tonne is derived from the Old English tunne, and ultimately
from the Old French tonne, and referred originally to a large cask with a
capacity of 252 wine gallons (volume of about 950�litres), which holds
approximately 2100 pounds of water (a mass of 950�kilograms). Such a barrel
is still called a tun in British English, but this usage is dying out'.

This second quote suggests that gradually the volume measure tunne was
gradually replaced by a mass measure based on how much water a tunne could
hold.

"Both the short ton and the long ton are composed of twenty hundredweights,
each having different values for the hundredweight (100 (45�kg) and 112
pounds (51�kg) respectively). Prior to the 15th century in England, the ton
was still composed of twenty hundredweights, but each was 108 lb (49�kg),
giving a ton of 2160 pounds (980�kg)'.

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin ASM (NSAA), LCAMS (USMA)*
PO Box 305, Belmont, Geelong, Australia
Phone 61 3 5241 2008

Pat Naughtin is the editor of the free online monthly newsletter,
'Metrication matters'. You can subscribe by going to
http://www.metricationmatters.com and clicking on 'Newsletter'.

 * Pat is the editor of the 'Numbers and measurement' chapter of the
Australian Government Publishing Service 'Style manual � for writers,
editors and printers', he is an Accredited Speaking Member (ASM) with the
National Speakers Association of Australia, and a Lifetime Certified
Advanced Metrication Specialist (LCAMS) with the United States Metric
Association.



on 2005-01-13 20.42, ewc at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi Bill & all
>  
> you write
>  
> <<You are correct in saying that you don't have specific knowledge of the
> Conf�rence G�n�rale. The people who attend the CGPM are not French academics,
> but are representatives of their respective countries. I don't believe France
> has any greater representation than any other country>>
>  
> In my reasonably long experience of attending meetings I've come to the
> conclusion that who attends is pretty much irrelevant - its he who writes the
> minutes that counts.  But anyhow - that issue is no going to be advanced by us
> exchanging simplistic one-liners.
>  
> How about answering my earlier question - where did the US customary ton come
> from?  Any 'FFU' users care to answer?
>  
> rob
>  
> (Robert Tye, York, UK)
>>  
> 


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