--- Paul Trusten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not metric, but relevant to speed limit discussion:
> 
> In my native Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 
> birthplace of road rage, where
> the fender bender is legal tender, there is the
> fundamental speed law, which
> roughly states that, unless otherwise posted, speed
> shall be "reasonable and
> proper for existing conditions." In practice, be
> ready for anybody to do
> anything. Just as Sheikh Ilderim told Judah Ben-Hur
> in the 1959 movie,
> "There is no law in the arena. Many are killed." 
> The real "fundamental
> speed law" is "I am the only car on the road. Go
> intercourse thyself."
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephen Humphreys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 09:36
> Subject: [USMA:32079] RE: red circle speed limit
> 
> 
> > " In these states, the speed limit indicates the
> optimal safe speed to
> > travel at on that road."
> >
> > REALLY?  That's come as some shock to me.
> > I thought there was a speed limit both ways. ie,
> you must go below this
> > speed but above this speed (the 'above' being to
> stop mopeds riding on
> > the motorway).
> >
> > I've never heard of an advisable optimal speed as
> that would be a
> > judgement from the driver himself - so long as he
> does not exceed the
> > limit.
> >
> > That might explain why I was overtaken by lorries
> doing about 90 in the
> > pouring rain on the way from orlando to florida!
> >
> > I still find myself deeply sratching my head bout
> this though!
> >
> > Are you positively sure?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Phil Chernack
> > Sent: 25 January 2005 15:11
> > To: U.S. Metric Association
> > Subject: [USMA:32077] RE: red circle speed limit
> >
> >
> > Not necessarily.  Some states have prima facie (on
> the face of it) speed
> > limits.  In these states, the speed limit
> indicates the optimal safe
> > speed to travel at on that road.  It is legal to
> exceed the limit when
> > conditions permit.  Of course, the amount you are
> allowed to exceed it
> > is a judgment call by both the driver and law
> enforcement officer.
> > Other states have de facto speed limits where it
> is illegal to exceed
> > the posted limit.  As I stated before, a red
> circle is a restriction.
> > Your activity is restricted rather than prohibited
> as in a "No Right
> > Turn" or "No Parking" sign utilizing a circle with
> a slash.  It's
> > semantics but a distinction nonetheless.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of David King
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:00 AM
> > To: U.S. Metric Association
> > Subject: [USMA:32076] RE: red circle speed limit
> >
> > Of course the red circle IS a prohibition, it
> indicates on a speed limit
> >
> > sign that it is prohibited to exceed the stated
> speed limit.
> >
> > David King
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Phil Chernack wrote:
> >
> > >As per my post on 1/20:
> > >"In the newest MUTCD the metric speed limit signs
> are a hybrid of the
> > >American and international styles of signs.  The
> major difference is
> > >that instead of a red circle, the sign uses a
> black one.  The original
> > >proposal was for a red circle but some uninformed
> people felt that
> > >drivers would misinterpret the red circle as a
> prohibition rather than
> > >a restriction.
> > The
> > >compromise reached was the black circle."
> > >
> > >Phil
> > >
> > >-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 


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